Wrestling #MeToo #SpeakingOut

[Lion_of_the_Midlands]

4 minutes ago, ThommoLincs said:

Good riddance. Roided little Mexican wannabe.

Good to know you are focused on the issues raised by this thread. 

[Kfogg1991]

Travis banks gone too

[Kfogg1991]

ligero has deleted his twitter account too

[The Four Horsemen]

23 minutes ago, Kfogg1991 said:

ligero has deleted his twitter account too

He did that the other day, ive not followed it on Twitter for a few days, just checking what has been going on on here.

I am sure he will turn up on a show somewhere,

[AVM]

If I’m honest I hope he does rehabilitate himself and revive his career. This movement shouldn’t be about cancelling people, it should be about reforming and safeguarding the industry. No longer should abuse be justified in the name of bullshit time honoured traditions. This whole movement has shone a light on the fact that there’s a real world outside the professional wrestling bubble with progressive values and safe working practices and recognition of that will see old abuse enabling values crumble.

[IANdrewDiceClay]

40 minutes ago, Kfogg1991 said:

ligero has deleted his twitter account too

To be fair, he should do. There's no such thing as Ligero anymore. Just some nonce from Leeds. This fucker will never be back.

Edited June 26, 2020 by IANdrewDiceClay

[Chest Rockwell]

41 minutes ago, Kfogg1991 said:

ligero has deleted his twitter account too

You don't need to rush to be a breaking news ticker thanks. Useful information but we don't need loads of one lines posts.

Edited June 26, 2020 by Chest Rockwell

[Devon Malcolm]

5 minutes ago, AVM said:

If I’m honest I hope he does rehabilitate himself and revive his career. This movement shouldn’t be about cancelling people, it should be about reforming and safeguarding the industry. No longer should abuse be justified in the name of bullshit time honoured traditions. This whole movement has shone a light on the fact that there’s a real world outside the professional wrestling bubble with progressive values and safe working practices and recognition of that will see old abuse enabling values crumble.

It should be about both, and there's plenty of room for it to be both. Some people should not be allowed near this industry again, or be 'cancelled', if you will.

[Kfogg1991]

3 minutes ago, AVM said:

If I’m honest I hope he does rehabilitate himself and revive his career. This movement shouldn’t be about cancelling people, it should be about reforming and safeguarding the industry. No longer should abuse be justified in the name of bullshit time honoured traditions. This whole movement has shone a light on the fact that there’s a real world outside the professional wrestling bubble with progressive values and safe working practices and recognition of that will see old abuse enabling values crumble.

While i do agree somewhat i think some allegations towards some people should mean they are out and tbh i think they will struggle to get bookings now anyway.

like they said on the brit wres experience the training schools that have had people speak out about them need to seriously stay closed until they can put stuff in place to make sure it never happens again, it's so simple to put out a statement saying it is awful and will never happen again in the hope it dies down in a couple of months and no one remembers but their needs to be some serious changes in an industry we all know is long since broken and outdated in terms of the mindset and behaviour people choose to subsequently live their lives because of.

Some of those involved can work hard to prove they have changed, others have just gone too far and shouldn't be accepted back in the industry they have used to act like disgusting human beings in 

[Ironic Indie Lad]

He can go rehabilitate himself away from the business. He had his chance and he absolutely fucked it big time.

If you were part of the problem, you probably shouldn’t be allowed to be part of the solution.

 

[Kfogg1991]

4 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

You don't need to rush to be a breaking news ticker thanks. Useful information but we don't need loads of one lines posts.

sorry dude i should have put them all in 1 post i just read them and put them separately my bad

[Keith Houchen]

2 minutes ago, Kfogg1991 said:

sorry dude i should have put them all in 1 post i just read them and put them separately my bad

You shouldn’t have posted them at all, that’s the point. 

[Kfogg1991]

I thought it was linked with this so if that's not the case i can only apologize 

[Keith Houchen]

Its the “Breaking News” style posts that are the issue, not the valid discussion. 

Edited June 26, 2020 by Keith Houchen

[AVM]

19 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

It should be about both, and there's plenty of room for it to be both. Some people should not be allowed near this industry again, or be 'cancelled', if you will.

Oh for sure, I think there should be discretion (David Starr for instance is beyond the pale with his accusations) but equally I believe people can reform themselves. That starts with accountability and if I’m honest I can count on one hand the amount of accused folk who have shown proper, genuine contrition and an understanding of the gravity of their accusation.

Edited June 26, 2020 by AVM