Liam O'Rourke Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 You know Boris is full of shit at face value, but has anybody done more harm to their political "gimmick" than Rees-Mogg these last few months? What a slimy, gutless, flim-flammy toilet licker, a man far more concerned with personal gain while cutting disingenuous promos hoping people believe his posh accent. Heard a quote this morning of him off-handedly spewing, "Regrettably, no deal has been taken off the table". Why is that regrettable? The only outcome that is universally panned and that the CBI and TUC finally agreed to something on (that it was shit), but he stands to gain a personal profit from, he pimps hard. He says May's deal is worse than staying in the EU. She says she'll stand down, he does a total 180 and says he'll back it. Fuck off. This guy deserves a lot more public scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted March 28, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted March 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Liam O'Rourke said: You know Boris is full of shit at face value, but has anybody done more harm to their political "gimmick" than Rees-Mogg these last few months? What a slimy, gutless, flim-flammy toilet licker, a man far more concerned with personal gain while cutting disingenuous promos hoping people believe his posh accent. Heard a quote this morning of him off-handedly spewing, "Regrettably, no deal has been taken off the table". Why is that regrettable? The only outcome that is universally panned and that the CBI and TUC finally agreed to something on (that it was shit), but he stands to gain a personal profit from, he pimps hard. He says May's deal is worse than staying in the EU. She says she'll stand down, he does a total 180 and says he'll back it. Fuck off. This guy deserves a lot more public scrutiny. What is worse, is even when he is called out and shown up for his shitarsery, nothing ever seems to happen and he just continue in his victorian villan lifestyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, Factotum said: No way. He would never get the MPs vote to be on the ballot. Plus he doesn't want it. He's too self involved to want to be Tory leader. Yeah, you get the feeling that he prefers to operate behind the scenes where he can control how much he's under the spotlight. The job after May is most likely going to be a bit of a poisoned chalice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted March 28, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 28, 2019 I think most of the ERG lot enjoy the impunity of spouting bollocks without having to back it up with anything substantial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator Onyx2 Posted March 28, 2019 Awards Moderator Share Posted March 28, 2019 Is anyone else struggling to keep up with whatever the latest is? Every day I wake up and some twist has been voted on and I can't keep abreast of it. So... We're extending? Possibly with May, possibly not? There is a deal? Which I assume is garbage? Have any normal people read it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PJ Power Posted March 28, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, David said: Yeah, you get the feeling that he prefers to operate behind the scenes where he can control how much he's under the spotlight. The job after May is most likely going to be a bit of a poisoned chalice. It already was a poisoned chalice by the time May became PM by default. And the consensus at the time was that she was the "least worst" of the potential candidates!  Whatever the outcome regarding Brexit, the best thing that could happen to British politics would be for an earthquake to hit both the Conservatives and Labour to effectively dissolve them with new parties to rise from the ruins. The Independent Group is a potential first step, but history will in future determine wherever it was the start of the inevitable, or a damp squib that didn't take long to fizzle out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 The thing with Rees Mogg is he has never held anything other than an entry level job in the HOC, there is no way he'd be considered for leader. There is a bloke who I used to work with who I follow on Twitter.  He is an "Islam is not a race / Pisslam / Muzzrats" kind of guy and wants to close our borders.  You know the sort.  He clearly doesn't hate all immigrants as he has two kids from two different immigrants, but they're clearly ok as they're white.  One of them has moved back to Poland with his son so maybe he blames the EU for that. Anyway, he has a locked account and is forever retweeting and replying to Farage and Rees Mogg.  I haven't the heart to tell him they can't even see his fawning.  He tweets the PM and calls her "Treason May" whenever he does, usually pointing out she said we'd leave on the 29th over 100 times.  He's been a #GoWTO for ages and retweets Moggy with his "No deal is better than this deal" a lot.  I'm looking forward to seeing his reaction to Rees Mogg saying he'll vote for her deal now if the DUP do, saying it's better than no deal.  The flip flop fop fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Onyx2 said: Is anyone else struggling to keep up with whatever the latest is? Every day I wake up and some twist has been voted on and I can't keep abreast of it. So... We're extending? Possibly with May, possibly not? There is a deal? Which I assume is garbage? Have any normal people read it? May assumed that one of the major impediments to getting her deal passed was personal, rather than political. She lured the Brexiteers into a sort of Faustian bargain, where they'd sell their europsceptic bonafide's down the river in exchange for the premiership. The DUP, getting nothing from that bargain, held true to telling her to eat a bag of old nipples and the Brexiteers, sensing catastrophe, retreated back to their original position. Only May had already offered her head. In essence, she doesn't have the votes to resign. She is the lamest of lame ducks. And, in the background, MP's voted on 7 alternative Brexit options and roundly said no to all of them on political lines. So, in essence, the lot of them are morally corrupt dicks who's every move is a political calculation even at a time of national crisis. I currently have Trump as a president, and I still don't envy the UK's mess. Edited March 28, 2019 by d-d-d-dAz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallicks Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 TIG is like New Labour, but with less social conscience. Pro-austerity, pro war, etc. Just the usual neoliberal shenanigans - what else could an amalgamation of the labour right and a few ever so slightly less horrible tories be? An actual seismic change would be a genuine alternative like the Greens getting in, who are politically left of Corbyn (who's had to reel in a load of his more "wack" stuff in the name of pragmatism, something he never gets credit for). They're unashamedly socialist, anti nuke, universal basic income etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Liam O'Rourke said: You know Boris is full of shit at face value, but has anybody done more harm to their political "gimmick" than Rees-Mogg these last few months? What a slimy, gutless, flim-flammy toilet licker, a man far more concerned with personal gain while cutting disingenuous promos hoping people believe his posh accent. Heard a quote this morning of him off-handedly spewing, "Regrettably, no deal has been taken off the table". Why is that regrettable? The only outcome that is universally panned and that the CBI and TUC finally agreed to something on (that it was shit), but he stands to gain a personal profit from, he pimps hard. He says May's deal is worse than staying in the EU. She says she'll stand down, he does a total 180 and says he'll back it. Fuck off. This guy deserves a lot more public scrutiny. Well, hang on. What has BJ done or said that is actually harmful? Overall, he's on the side of rationality and he's hardly at the weird religious end of the Conservative party spectrum. He's a history scholar and very articulate, I really enjoy reading his writing. I wouldn't mind him being PM at all, certainly more than I would that massive prick Rees-Mogg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallicks Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Brewster McCloud said: Well, hang on. What has BJ done or said that is actually harmful? Overall, he's on the side of rationality and he's hardly at the weird religious end of the Conservative party spectrum. He's a history scholar and very articulate, I really enjoy reading his writing. I wouldn't mind him being PM at all, certainly more than I would that massive prick Rees-Mogg. Getting that British journo incarcerated in Iran for an extra 5 years by being an incompetent twat and then not even apologising? Getting that journalist beaten up for printing stuff he didn't like? His casual racism/islamophobia? He's not on the side of anything other than what gets him more power, as this week has highlighted yet again. (During the referendum campaign he was both pro-remain then pro-leave, based on whatever way the wind was blowing. He's a genuine bastard hiding behind a foppish, buffoon-like appearance. Fuck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, hallicks said: Getting that British journo incarcerated in Iran for an extra 5 years by being an incompetent twat and then not even apologising? Getting that journalist beaten up for printing stuff he didn't like? His casual racism/islamophobia? He's not on the side of anything other than what gets him more power, as this week has highlighted yet again. (During the referendum campaign he was both pro-remain then pro-leave, based on whatever way the wind was blowing. He's a genuine bastard hiding behind a foppish, buffoon-like appearance. Fuck him. Getting? He aplogised: Speaking in the House of Commons, Johnson said: “I hope the House will understand with crystal clarity that Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe was there on holiday. She was not there in any professional capacity. “Insofar that people got a different impression, it was my mistake, I should have been clearer ... I apologise for the distress and anguish caused to Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe and her family. Our priority now is to everything we can to get her out of Iran on humanitarian grounds. Would that more people in power realized their mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallicks Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Brewster McCloud said: Getting? He aplogised: Speaking in the House of Commons, Johnson said: “I hope the House will understand with crystal clarity that Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe was there on holiday. She was not there in any professional capacity. “Insofar that people got a different impression, it was my mistake, I should have been clearer ... I apologise for the distress and anguish caused to Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe and her family. Our priority now is to everything we can to get her out of Iran on humanitarian grounds. Would that more people in power realized their mistakes. Isn't that a bit of a non-apology? He's saying sorry if people got the wrong impression (implying he said nothing wrong), then apologises for the distress caused without taking responsibility for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 And his "casual racism" is absolute nonsense - just words that don't make any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, hallicks said: Isn't that a bit of a non-apology? He's saying sorry if people got the wrong impression (implying he said nothing wrong), then apologises for the distress caused without taking responsibility for it. I'ts better than nothing, man. We're at the point now where no apology is good enough unless it happens to chime with one's own ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.