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I must admit there was a large part of me that thought the bad feeling towards this company was more down to them booking imports and this upsetting a certain section of BritWres fans, such as those that are into Progress etc.

But in fairness, this all sounds amateur in the extreme. Seems to be they're running before they can walk, booking arenas of this size with an operation this small sounds like suicide. WrestleXpress anyone?

 

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They've only done 5 shows before. The Echo Arena show was 2 years ago and didn't it have a poor attendance? I don't think they have a vague idea what they're doing at all, the past two years are a testament to that.

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Aiming not to be worse than WrestleXpress is a pretty lofty goal. What they should be aiming for is not to be worse than Bowler's Amazing Wrestling Shows. 

As for having TV @Cousin Jim Bob by the sounds of that tweet they don't have the equipment or anyone to operate it. 

 

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From what I understand they have the deal set up for the broadcast stuff but none of their own equipment to film anything outside of the live broadcast. 

Theyre pitching the videography stuff for everything else, so promos, social media stuff, motion graphic and that sort of thing. They do seem to be pitching it at fans who will work for free / exposure / being a mark and to be fair if you're willing to work for free ( and far too many people in wrestling are) then you're an idiot and the old 'you get what you pay for' will be in full effect. 

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48 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said:

Aiming not to be worse than WrestleXpress is a pretty lofty goal. What they should be aiming for is not to be worse than Bowler's Amazing Wrestling Shows. 

As for having TV @Cousin Jim Bob by the sounds of that tweet they don't have the equipment or anyone to operate it. 

 

I feel like I'm defending "these guys have a vague idea what they are doing". 

That's not exactly suggesting they are the future of British wrestling. It's a long way from fucking free pies for everyone too. 

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I don't think they're that far away from free pies for everyone, though, they just happen to have a few million quid from a dodgy casino company backing them up.

Money talks, bullshit walks - with the kind of backing they have, they've been able to blag their way this far, in a way that most shitarse promoters haven't. They've gone to a no-name TV company - after at least one other promotion turned said company's deal down because they knew they couldn't deliver - with a list of ex-WWE names, and said, "yeah, we can do this", and the TV company have agreed without, presumably, the slightest bit of research. That doesn't mean they can actually deliver.

 

The way to judge a promotion is on how they cope when the shit hits the fan - and this promotion handled a lack of ticket sales to an absurdly over-ambitious tournament by cancelling everything at short notice, not paying any of the wrestlers scheduled to appear, doing a runner, and blaming it on a terrorist atrocity. As far as levels of BritWres shitarsery go, that's further up the scale than complaining on the UKFF when people are mean about your promotion, in my book.

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Quick teabreak check on sales for Sheffield - 1568 seats shown as "unavailable" out of the blocks they have for sale. Not sure if any of those are re-uses from the previous cancelled show and it does appear as if they are filling every other row on the tiered stands. 

might amble up on the night and see how much tickets are

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Sheffield seems to be the only place where tickets are being measurably shifted. 

I had a speculative check of the Liverpool Echo website last week and the cheapest seats seemed to be showing as unavailable. But I admit to knowing sod-all about how to gauge actual/ballpark ticket sales so far.

I knew they had a source of money but I didn’t know what or where it was. Who fancies calling the tax man on the casino? 

I’m kidding, everyone.

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In fairness, I'm being harsh with "dodgy casino" - I don't think the casino/gambling/fruit machine company that seems to be their parent company is in itself dodgy, just something strikes me as dodgy about the whole arrangement. It could just as easily be a richer-than-usual money mark, or a case of Daddy's Credit Card more than anything genuinely untoward.

I believe the parent company is Nobles Amusements, but don't quote me on that!

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Let's say for the sake of argument and conversation, that they make £35,000 (total revenue) in TICKET sales for each of the first three shows. No merch/concession kickbacks (which is probably non-existent). Discuss.

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