Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Hall's son is massive, eh? I imagine Vince will take one look at him and fast track him to the main show, if he ever gets signed to WWE. Edited February 12, 2018 by ColinBollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Supremo said: I’ve not given it much thought, but how many second generation guys end up as good or better than their dads? Rock? Orton? The shitness of Ted Debiase Jr and Curtis Axel definitely pull the average down.  The ones that come to mind are: The Rock Randy Orton Bret Hart John Cena (cheating, I know, because he's basically "reverse second generation") I'm not sure if Bray Wyatt is better than his dad, and having not seen the Usos for a long time, I couldn't tell you if they were better than Rikishi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Supremo said: I’ve not given it much thought, but how many second generation guys end up as good or better than their dads? Rock? Orton? The shitness of Ted Debiase Jr and Curtis Axel definitely pull the average down.  DiBiase and Axel are third generation so maybe there's a third gen curse or something. Maybe talent only passes down to the second generation and skips the third. Although The Rock would be the exception to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Supremo said: I’ve not given it much thought, but how many second generation guys end up as good or better than their dads? Rock? Orton? The shitness of Ted Debiase Jr and Curtis Axel definitely pull the average down.  There's a fair few old-timers where there's not enough footage out there to make the assessment (Joe Blanchard, Mike Dibiase, Gory Guerrero, Warren Bockwinkel, Dory Funk Sr., Stu Hart, Boris Malenko, Paul Morton, and so on), but where I'd assume their more famous children were probably superior. I'd say El Hijo Del Santo was a far better and more versatile worker than El Santo was, Jeff Jarrett was better than Jerry, Randy Savage better than Angelo Poffo, Jake Roberts better than Grizzly Smith, a couple of the Von Erich kids were probably better than Fritz.  That's all going pretty far back, though, it's hard to think of any of the kids of that generation that were better than their parents aside from Rock and Orton...an argument could be made for Paige. Maybe Andrade Almas, as his dad and granddad seem to be relative non-entities, as far as I can tell.  2 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said: DiBiase and Axel are third generation so maybe there's a third gen curse or something. Maybe talent only passes down to the second generation and skips the third. Although The Rock would be the exception to that. Maybe The Rock's exempt because one generation is on his mother's side. Perhaps shitness is passed down on the father's side.  Mark Rocco is allegedly a fourth generation wrestler, which is pretty mental considering the time period he was competing in, and that there are only a handful of other fourth generation wrestlers now that I can think of - one of the Rougeaus, and Dave Finlay Jr are the only two that come to mind, though I assume there must be one or two in Lucha, at least. Edited February 12, 2018 by BomberPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 Is Jake The Snake 2nd generation? It's hard to remember with his traumatic incest-heavy bloodline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 He is, yeah, son of Grizzly Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecian Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, BomberPat said: Mark Rocco is allegedly a fourth generation wrestler, which is pretty mental considering the time period he was competing in, and that there are only a handful of other fourth generation wrestlers now that I can think of - one of the Rougeaus, and Dave Finlay Jr are the only two that come to mind, though I assume there must be one or two in Lucha, at least. Isn't Shane O'Mac fourth generation too? Or would he not count as his family tree is more promoters than actual wrestlers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 Yeah, I've always been dubious about that claim - to me, fourth generation wrestler would mean four generations actually competing. He could legitimately claim four generations in the business, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) What generation are the Usos? Rikishi could only dream of being as good as those two. Edited February 12, 2018 by Supremo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 Orton is 3rd generation, isn't he? At least, that's the impression the game Legends Of Wrestling II gave me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Statto Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 Yep - Bob Orton Sr > Bob Orton Jr > Randy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 Usos are an odd one. Second generation via Rikishi, who was a nephew of Afa and Sika. So Rikishi's the second generation in his family, but not through his parents, so depends on if we're counting that. Randy Orton's third gen - Bob Orton > Bob Orton Jr. > Randy Orton   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 Would Road Dogg and Brad Armstrong be considered better than Bullet Bob? I never saw him wrestle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Kaz Hayashi Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Carbomb said: I'm not sure if Bray Wyatt is better than his dad, Good shout, the IRS character was completely jenk as a single, but worked perfectly as a team with the million dolllar man. I wish it had happened a few years later and could have built on the reason for the friendship (corruption) etc. Bray has far more charisma but the character has run its course as is stated regularly, needs a revamp. I personally think Mike was a much better wrestler. Probably under appreciated due to the shitness of his gimmicks. Edited February 12, 2018 by Kaz Hayashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted February 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 12, 2018 I think we can all unanimously agree that the great Erik Watts was better than Cowby Bill, right? Right? We can put Barry Windham above Blackjack Mulligan surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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