Keith Houchen Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Yes, but Brock was a former WWE champion and very well known to WWE audiences as a monster. Rousey isn't. Â Maybe my Asuka glasses are steamed up but I'd rather the badass be a WWE star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted January 26, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 hours ago, theringmaster said: Â The origins of Pro Wrestling training is essentially Judo, the things you learn in the first few lessons are all based on traditional Judo teachings. Â Sad thing is I bet the majority of people teaching this at Schools don't actually know this.. Sorry, but I'm having trouble agreeing with that assertion. I'm sure some schools came about through judo, but British catch wrestling is just as old, if not older, and I don't imagine that the basis of pro-wrestling in Britain traditionally stems from that in the larger part. The Americans had hook/shoot wrestling, as well. I'm not disputing that some styles and techniques of pro-wrestling stem from judo, but not exclusively; when you look at the differences in some of the basics you learn, such as the difference between a British back bump and an American one, it doesn't seem to be that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 39 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: Yes, but Brock was a former WWE champion and very well known to WWE audiences as a monster. Rousey isn't. Â Maybe my Asuka glasses are steamed up but I'd rather the badass be a WWE star. But how valuable is the currency of âreal life badass auraâ to WWE audiences anyway? Theyâre busy tugging themselves tired to Daniel Bryan, Finn Balor et al Surely the only reason you bring in a Ronda is to expand your reach beyond that of wrestling perverts? They arenât going anywhere. Even Brock, his WWE past probably didnât hurt, but they brought him back with the intention of reaching out to lapsed fans and non-fans, surely? If you make Asuka the badass in the run up to Wrestlemania, thatâs great in the long run as concerns the long term feasibility of the division, but it isnât going to drive any extra eyes to the product in the critical Mania season. And when the amount of available big name, short spike stars is at its lowest ever, Ronda seems like the best possible option. For me anyway. If she ends up going down for Asuka (stop it) at Mania, which she should, then thatâs perfect and probably does more for Asuka and the division in the long run, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted January 26, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Indeed. The thing with Rousey is she legit crossed over to the mainstream and brought new fans to the MMA, in a way McGregor hasn't with a certain audience (young women). Whether they're still there, after her last two results and vanishing act, we'll see, but you're bringing in Rousey to cast a wider net, get some mainstream attention (which she'll probably get), and in the hope her fans stick around to watch the likes of Asuka etc on Raw and the Network. A year ago this was probably a sure thing, in terms of doing the business, but we'll have to wait and see the value of Rousey, these days. Edited January 26, 2018 by ColinBollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I totally agree with you, chaps, I just think Rousey's stock has dropped drastically since her Mania appearance. Â But you're right, who else is there to bring new eyes on to the product, specifically the women division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted January 26, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Keith Houchen said: Maybe my Asuka glasses are steamed up I get that a lot. I didn't JUST go for Wrestle Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Itâs hard to say with Ronda as she went dark almost immediately after the second loss. My suspicion is that her stock has dropped with the hyper-casual audience, but her more loyal fans are probably still there; she became something more than a killer in the end, and became a sort of feminist torch carrier. As a boring marketeer, what interests me is the Venn diagram that creates and what size is the audience that will follow her to the WWE. It seems to me that the casual, âswept up in the momentâ fans are both the most likely to follow her to the WWE and the most likely to have deserted her since her UFC run. Her, to now, more loyal fans seem the most likely to have stuck with her (or at least be likely to give her the benefit of the doubt) but also the least likely to want to watch the still hyper-masculine, non-progressive WWE product. As much as I fully agree with the decision to bring her in, I have worries. Not necessarily that she doesnât have a significant pull anymore, but that the audience that has stayed engaged might not be willing to make the jump with her. Itâs fascinating, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said: and became a sort of feminist torch carrier She became a male idea of a feminist torch carrier, real ones tend not to cosy up to convicted rapists. Â Thanks for your posts though, it certainly gives me a perspective that I hadn't previously thought of. Â It certainly is interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: She became a male idea of a feminist torch carrier, real ones tend not to cosy up to convicted rapists. Â Thanks for your posts though, it certainly gives me a perspective that I hadn't previously thought of. Â It certainly is interesting! Ignore me, I just slandered a Hawaiian fighter. *edit* Tyson is problematic in that heâs entwined himself in the fight world, and seems to have convinced enough people that his conviction is toss. I do agree. But Iâm also not sure how much of that will have got through to her audience who will have switched on around fight week. She might have been a âmale idea of a feminist torch carrierâ, but her audience was mainly women. Young women, too, which is a really tough demographic for fight sports to catch (including WWE). Edited January 26, 2018 by d-d-d-dAz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Oh totally, when Mick fucking Foley is considered to be the pioneer in gender equality in your industry, you're hardly going to be attracting the Pankhurst's to your product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I have visions of her being unable to control her instincts. I donât think sheâll crack someone, but I reckon sheâll go for a judo hip toss and just as the other person goes to bump, sheâll pop her hip into it properly and theyâll land on the moon or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said: but I reckon sheâll go for a judo hip toss and just as the other person goes to bump, sheâll pop her hip into it properly and theyâll land on the moon or something. Please be Steph, please be Steph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTH17 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Copy and pasted from another forum. Per Brad Shepard on todayâs Backstage in WWE podcast (time stamp 29:43), WrestleMania 35 will be at MetLife Stadium âbarring an unexpected change.â He says he was told last year and tweeted the scoop in November.For perspective, Shepard was 100% accurate with his XFL scoop last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted January 26, 2018 Awards Moderator Share Posted January 26, 2018 WWE Shop have released a Rusev Day calendar:Â http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/article/rusev-day-calendar-wwe-shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snitsky's back acne Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 According to wrestlingobserver all charges against Rich Swann have been dropped so it will be interesting to see if he is back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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