Keith Houchen Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, Carbomb said: Throughout the near-century of Labour being a party of government, the Tories have had more than twice as many prime ministers, and have been in power nearly twice as long as Labour ever have Currently watching Politics Live and Streeting said if Sunak is ousted before the next election as some MPs want, they’ll have had the same amount of PMs since 2010 than Labour have had in their existence.  And as always, I think pandering to the right just to get power is “Yay red team won” and counts for fuck all when you’re where the tories have been politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted January 31 Paid Members Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: Currently watching Politics Live and Streeting said if Sunak is ousted before the next election as some MPs want, they’ll have had the same amount of PMs since 2010 than Labour have had in their existence.  And as always, I think pandering to the right just to get power is “Yay red team won” and counts for fuck all when you’re where the tories have been politically. I absolutely agree, which is why I was careful to caveat my post - I don't align with Labour as they currently are, and just because I'm left-wing doesn't mean that I automatically should vote Labour, in the same way that not every right-winger would be expected to vote Tory - some vote Lib Dem, some vote Reform/UKIP/some cunts. Was just noting the practicalities - I think, when you're faced with that kind of situation, you have two options open to you: you're going to take flak either way, so you either play it safe and strategic, or you Go Big Or Go Home. The current Labour leadership have seen what happened when Corbyn's Labour Went Big (partly because a fair chunk of them were responsible for fucking him over), so they probably thought "OK, we're going to have to play this proper Hue & Cry, or we'll get shafted by the Tories, the electorate, the media, and our own people". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 11 minutes ago, Carbomb said: OK, we're going to have to play this proper Hue & Cry They’ll be Looking For Linda not to withdraw her Labour of Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westlondonmist Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 She's a former banker, she won't want to upset her mates.  I get it they didn't put this law into place, but what the fuck do Labour actually stand for? I know why I shouldn't vote Tory, but I don't know why I should vote Labour. They seem to be relying on Tories and SNP being shite. I could actually see the turn out at the next election being incredibly low as currently all parties look a bit shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BigJag Posted January 31 Paid Members Share Posted January 31 Unfortunately. A low turnout is a real possibility. Apathy and lack of political engagement is a major factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 To be fair, he isn’t wrong. Mish Rahman, an elected member of Labours NEC said this about the candidate for Rochdale.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The Green Party are now antisemitic according to some wallopers.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 An utter cretin. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted March 14 Moderators Share Posted March 14 I mean, I hate hearing him speak because he's a total knob, so my reaction to the video is still revulsion... But that's not really the gotcha its trying to be sold as is it? Asking for donations from members is just completely par for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said: Asking for donations from members is just completely par for the course. Of course it is. I don't think that's what is being questioned here is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: Of course it is. I don't think that's what is being questioned here is it? Exactly. Abbott has been the victim of appalling abuse from Labour employees and staffers, as well as members of the PLP. It’s been nearly a year since she had the whip removed, she apologised the same day yet the investigation is still ongoing? Even though since there have been white blokes having the whip removed for the same charge but restored? It’s factional and it’s horrible.  If Starmer really cared about the abuse Abbott receives, he’d deal with the people within his party who dish it out to her. To use her situation to fundraise when you won’t even help her with the abuse is galling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Boy he is really going after THAT vote isn't he? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/21/keir-starmer-calls-for-england-to-scrap-euros-kit-with-new-st-georges-cross-design-football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westlondonmist Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, SuperBacon said: Boy he is really going after THAT vote isn't he? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/21/keir-starmer-calls-for-england-to-scrap-euros-kit-with-new-st-georges-cross-design-football glad I wasn't the only one who thought that when reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted March 21 Paid Members Share Posted March 21 He's in company with Lee Anderson and Nigel Farage. Should have a think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted March 21 Paid Members Share Posted March 21 Flag shaggers gonna shag flags. Starmer may be new to the flag shagging game but he's learning from the best in those two pricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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