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1 minute ago, Gay as FOOK said:

I paid them a month for the Network when I was a bit depressed back in Christmas. Watched Breakdown 98 and felt dirty inside so done the usual near instant cancellation. 

But even nicking WrestleMania for free this year to have a good chortle at Vince botching a stunner seems rotten now. I swear, some of us need some form of rehab to stop watching this shite. Maybe get us weaned off gradually with Drowning Pool CDs and tapes of Fear Factor from 2002 or something. 

Trying to wean off wrestling takes me one step closer to the edge that i am about to break . What made you choose that PPV? I am intrigued 

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2 minutes ago, RalphyV2 said:

Trying to wean off wrestling takes me one step closer to the edge that i am about to break . What made you choose that PPV? I am intrigued 

One of the comfort watch Silvervisions as a kid, wasn't it. 

The three way cage match is still an absolute belter. 

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The fact that this particular thing happened from 2019 until he paid her off in Jan this year means there are probably hundreds of times he's doing something like this, and worse.

Edit: yeah, there's more:

"The board’s investigation, which began in April, has unearthed other, older nondisclosure agreements involving claims by former female WWE employees of misconduct by Mr. McMahon and one of his top executives, John Laurinaitis, the head of talent relations at WWE, the people said. The Journal couldn’t determine how many previous agreements were being scrutinized."

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9 minutes ago, CavemanLynn said:

The board have already concluded he used his own money, which, if it doesn't absolve Vince of the bulk of legal trouble, certainly sounds like the kind of detail that can bury a case in technicalities.

I didn't see this, have they concluded that just for the pay off, or for the salary increase as well?

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9 minutes ago, Duke said:

I didn't see this, have they concluded that just for the pay off, or for the salary increase as well?

The Bloomberg article uses the term "settlements" for what they say Vince paid for himself, so that sounds like the payoff only.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-15/wwe-probes-3-million-ceo-paid-to-female-employee-journal-says

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I have finished reading SHE SAID the story about the NYT reporter's exposing Weinstein. It started off very similar to this and one of the main things was the company money being used to pay women off. NDAs are a really hot issue at the moment, and I would say this will lead (if it hasn't already) to someone looking into the company.

One of the things they mention about the HW stuff was that a lot of people kept saying 'Does anyone really care about this stuff in the mainstream?' it seemed so, and if it is another powerful man abusing his power, it is a huge story.

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1 hour ago, Keith Houchen said:

Is this going to make a difference to anyones viewing or will you still pay these cunts to watch their product?

I wish I could say I won't be paying for the Network, but I know deep down that I'll resubscribe again at some point. I usually buy it for a month when I'm not working much and dive into the ol' Hogan classics. 

I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't.

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21 minutes ago, Factotum said:

I have finished reading SHE SAID the story about the NYT reporter's exposing Weinstein. It started off very similar to this and one of the main things was the company money being used to pay women off. NDAs are a really hot issue at the moment, and I would say this will lead (if it hasn't already) to someone looking into the company.

One of the things they mention about the HW stuff was that a lot of people kept saying 'Does anyone really care about this stuff in the mainstream?' it seemed so, and if it is another powerful man abusing his power, it is a huge story.

Don't the reports say that Vince used his own personal funds and not company money for the payoff? Jerry McDevitt negotiated it and I don't someone as savvy as him would pull a rookie move like using money that wasn't Vince's own. 

Not to say that the whole situation isn't completely fucked up and potentially very damaging, of course. 

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Dave Meltzer is saying that the Board (except the McMahons and HHH) have hired a firm for an independent investigation into the corporate culture.

Dave also said that they were aware of the investigation before Stephanie quit.

This could be a fucking wild few weeks / months

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1 hour ago, Gay as FOOK said:

One of the comfort watch Silvervisions as a kid, wasn't it. 

The three way cage match is still an absolute belter. 

10 year old me was so confused watching this as my absolute favourite Ken Shamrock was being booed? It was only a month since he was in those glorious blue trunks against Owen at SS98. 

It is a belter, absolutely, but whenever I revisit I'm retrospectively sad for ten year old me and our Ken. 

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13 minutes ago, Merzbow said:

Her pay was also doubled once they were having the affair, I doubt that was Vince's own cash. That's likely going to be the main argument then.

Good point! I was talking specifically about the payout but, yes, the sudden promotion doubling her salary is obviously a red flag. I bet they're able to justify it somehow, mind. 

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