Paid Members tiger_rick Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 What are ideas from fans or even promotions that you would like to see hoofed into a big black hole? I'd go with the suggestion that anyone ever forms a Four Horsemen style stable. It was done to death before WCW died and the corpse has been fucked since. No, stop it. No suits. No Ole Anderson role. No fingers. The whole "wrestler A should get serious" thing. I thought this might be a thing of the past but I've read the NXT results the last two weeks and both times, the guy has said it about Cameron Grimes. This idea that a suit will transform a guy into a main eventer is worse than the trunks/tights thing. We all know about wrestlers in suits. If they're not Wardlow, they wear it worse than @John Matrix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 Matches where a Wrestler A has to beat the champion to face the champion again for the title. It's a specifically lazy WWE-centric problem, but it always feels so inorganic. Ladder matches. Done to death in recent years, and if not banning them, I would at least give them a rest for a bit. See also Hell in a Cell. Speaking of which, PPVs themed around a match type. No thank you. I'm sure I'll have others if I give it some thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I would ban any sort of plancha for good. If I never see a wrestler launch themselves over the top rope to an obviously waiting opponent I'd be happy. Not only is it completely overdone (multiple times per match per card) but it also goes wrong far too often and can injure both wrestlers. I'd include going through the ropes, that's even more error prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 I'm sure I have hundreds of these, but the most obvious is Money In The Bank, and any variation on that magic briefcase gimmick. A load of other companies started doing it because WWE did it, and it's just lazy booking to have a panic "surprise" button or a way to make someone champion without investing in actually building them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted November 17, 2021 Author Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, mim731 said: Ladder matches. Done to death in recent years, and if not banning them, I would at least give them a rest for a bit. Absolutely. I realised during some SummerSlam recaps that Rock/HHH was only the third ladder match on TV at that point, after the two HBK/Razor ones, or fourth if you count Bret/HBK on the Smack 'em, Whack 'em tape. That's 3 in 4 years. They seem to do that in a month now. 1 minute ago, BomberPat said: I'm sure I have hundreds of these, but the most obvious is Money In The Bank, and any variation on that magic briefcase gimmick. A load of other companies started doing it because WWE did it, and it's just lazy booking to have a panic "surprise" button or a way to make someone champion without investing in actually building them up. Yep. this came up recently, I think, probably after the PPV of the same name. It absolutely kills any creativity. It's the laziest of their lazy go tos IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopper Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Two rivals's heading in to a big PPV singles match team up to beat the Tag Team Champions. The earliest time I can remember that happening was Cena & Michaels going in to WM23, and MVP & Matt Hardy did it later that year. Cena & Miz did it going in to WM27, there have been others. Sacrificing one of your champions to build heat in somebody else's angle is silly. They do it regularly with the Women's Titles too. Edited November 17, 2021 by dopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, dopper said: Two rivals's heading in to a big PPV singles match team up to beat the Tag Team Champions. The earliest time I can remember that happening was Cena & Michaels going in to WM23, and MVP & Matt Hardy did it later that year. Cena & Miz did it going in to WM27, there have been others. Sacrificing one of your champions to build heat in somebody else's angle is silly. They do it regularly with the Women's Titles too. Goes back much further. Taker and Austin in the build to Summerslam 1998 is the earliest I can recall, but there are probably other examples. Totally agree though, it's massively overplayed as a lazy trope to build to a PPV. Edited November 17, 2021 by mim731 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 Cage matches. I hate them. Been a few good "Hell in the Cell" ones, but normal Cage matches - urghhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, mim731 said: Goes back much further. Taker and Austin in the build to Summerslam 1998 is the earliest I can recall, but there are probably other examples. Totally agree though, it's massively overplayed as a lazy trope to build to a PPV. I guess if the example is more about two singles wrestlers being tag champs and not liking one another, you could go with Michaels & Austin beating Bulldog & Owen for the tag team titles in 1997. Not sure if the intention was to build to something, but plans changed within a month once Michaels and Bret Hart had their (legitimate) fight backstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members I Bent My Wookie Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 Watching TV at an angle nobody would ever willingly watch a TV at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 The “brand loyalty” horseshit that surrounds Survivor Series. It’s beyond forced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieranjennings Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 A bad guy authority figure. It's been done to death and makes no sense logically. Is the aim of the authority figure not to make money etc., or get big ratings, for their show? So why do they do everything possible to pee off fan favourites. It's daft! It made sense with Austin/McMahon as it felt an organic clash but it's been done to death since then and is just lazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, kieranjennings said: A bad guy authority figure. It's been done to death and makes no sense logically. Is the aim of the authority figure not to make money etc., or get big ratings, for their show? So why do they do everything possible to pee off fan favourites. It's daft! This is why Dario Cueto from Lucha Underground was my favourite authority figure in wrestling. He was neither heel or babyface really, he was just a bit of an evil bastard who loved violence, fighting and putting on a crazy show so booked the matches accordingly. He would sometimes put babyfaces in positions where they were outnumbered or in peril but it was mainly because he thought it would be the most exciting or bloody thing to give the fans, make money and to amuse himself rather than some weird nonsensical feud with any of the wrestlers. As for banned ideas- BAN KENDO STICKS! They are shit and unless your Steve Blackman no one looks like they even know how to use them. Also with other usual weapons (chairs, ladders, tables etc) there's some kind of logic to why they are under the ring or within the ringside area. But why the fuck are multiple Japanese practice swords made of bamboo always under the ring? And if you wanted to plant a weapon to use why would it be a kendo stick and not a fucking metal pipe, hammer, baseball bat or anything else easily accessible? I hate them so much. Edited November 17, 2021 by LaGoosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted November 17, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted November 17, 2021 If I ever start watching wrestling again, which is unlikely due to my issues with the fans and the production, I'd love to see an authority figure who just turns up to make matches and stipulations. No feuds or stories involving them and no wrestlers booking thier own matches, just someone in a suit making the matches and driving forward other stories as nothing more than a MacGuffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Saying the word "shit". It's not edgy or funny and because it's done so often now you just know it's shoehorned in to fill a quota. Edited November 17, 2021 by Merzbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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