westlondonmist Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 https://www.wwe.com/videos/kerry-von-erich-vs-ric-flair-nwa-world-heavyweight-championship-wccw-david-von-erich-memorial-parade-of-champions-may-6-1984 Always disliked this finish. It's an NWA title win, thousands of fans are there. My guess is that they made it look flukey as Flair would take the title back a couple of weeks later as the title change was because it was the David Von Erich memorial show.
Liam O'Rourke Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 @air_raid Yeah, the clothesline was fucking lethal at Survivors 90. Anvil jobbed to one from DiBiase, but the creme de la creme is the one Slaughter does on Butch, more for Butch's selling before the clothesline, which needs to be gif'd. It looks like a pissed deer on ice.
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted December 30, 2020 Author Paid Members Posted December 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, Liam O'Rourke said: @air_raid Yeah, the clothesline was fucking lethal at Survivors 90. Anvil jobbed to one from DiBiase, but the creme de la creme is the one Slaughter does on Butch, more for Butch's selling before the clothesline, which needs to be gif'd. It looks like a pissed deer on ice.
The Maestro Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 I'm not a fan of repeat finishers being users being used to death in wrestling (I'm looking at you NXT), but The Rock beating CM Punk at Royal Rumble 2013 with a spinebuster followed by a quick People's Elbow felt a bit of an anticlimactic way to end such a long reign.
Paid Members CoreyVandal Posted December 30, 2020 Paid Members Posted December 30, 2020 I always liked the 'out-of-the-blue' eliminations in the middle of Survivor Series matches, it made it feel like there was so much going on that the wrestlers couldn't find their normal level of focus so they'd get caught out with moves that they'd usually be able to 'brace themselves' for.
CavemanLynn Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Agreed. The idea of getting caught napping because you're only used to dealing with one opponent is great. I wish they'd make more of that, especially if you have tag teams involved who in kayfabe should be used to keeping tracking of a load more opponents than a dedicated singles wrestler. Only getting wins with your finish makes everything more predictable, and makes the rest of your moveset less engaging and more pointless. As ever, Bret was the master of this. If he couldn't get you with the Sharpshooter, he'd pin you out of nowhere with a victory roll or small package, and once he got you with the Sharpshooter, the feud was done. Nowadays it seems the only surprise pin you get is a snap rollup.
Paid Members Tommy! Posted December 30, 2020 Paid Members Posted December 30, 2020 Did HHH beat Helms with a sleeper on Raw in 03 or am I making that up?
Chili Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Tommy! said: Did HHH beat Helms with a sleeper on Raw in 03 or am I making that up? Jeff Hardy, yeah sometimes Trips tries things that even he didn't stubbornly persist with.
SaitoRyo Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Not only did RVD & Kane versus Lance Storm & Chief Morley for the World Tag Team Titles get moved to the WrestleMania XIX pre-show episode of Heat, but Van Dam did the job to an elbow drop from an interfering Bubba Ray Dudley.
Paid Members Callum1993 Posted December 30, 2020 Paid Members Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Suplex Sinner said: Not sure if this counts but Kizarny's (roll through DDT) finisher is particularly weak. Not only does he not properly spike the DDT, the rollover and subsequent laying on top of the opponent is ridiculous. Wasn’t this his only televised match before he was fired? Awful finish to be fair.
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted December 30, 2020 Paid Members Posted December 30, 2020 Ric Flair pinned Barry Windham with the figure four at Beach Blast 93. I remember being a bit puzzled by it when I went through all the 92/93 shows on here a while back. It wasn’t even like a ‘passed out from the pain’ thing like Bret-Austin at WrestleMania 13. Flair slaps it on and Windham’s lying back reaching for the ropes and his shoulders just stay down and the ref counts him out. If it wasn’t for Windham being one of the best in ring of all time I’d swear it was a cock up and he was meant to get the shoulder up. Still not sure it wasn’t a mistake but the ref had no choice but to count. Just looked odd. If it was meant to be the finish it was weak as piss.
Paid Members Lenin Posted December 30, 2020 Paid Members Posted December 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Callum1993 said: Wasn’t this his only televised match before he was fired? Awful finish to be fair. Indeed it was. They aired really bizarre vignettes for about 6 weeks in the run up to his debut and within 90 seconds it was crystal clear he was absolutely no use. The MVP match was mid October I believe and he wasn't seen on television again, getting released the following March. Imagine pitching what in theory should be an interesting character only for them to give it to a below average wrestler with no upside at all.
Moderators PowerButchi Posted December 30, 2020 Moderators Posted December 30, 2020 4 hours ago, air_raid said: Hogan pins Paul Roma after a clothesline (admittedly it did look great) I never minded it from Hogan watching it now as we know what was his finish elsewhere and he was using the Axe Bomber as an occasional finish in WWF still til about 86 or so. And yeah, it looked good.
Just Some Guy Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 I've been wondering about "power creep" in wrestling for a while now. Wrestlers seem to me at least to need more and more extreme "drop you on your head" finishers. Unless I'm misremembering my youth watching World of Sport, most of the pins came from technique rather than unconsciousness.
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