Michael_3165 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Jesus these guys need to grow a set and tell him and his company to do one. Who does he think he is? If he wants to own them then he must give them healthcare, hotels, travel and other perks. If not he needs to stop this bullshit. Sadly they are either huge marks for the company, get way too much money a year to quibble or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Coconut Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 The people who need to grow a set are the punters who continue to overlook absolutely everything and pump their money into his pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 This is such a Vince move that I'm surprised that it took this long. Most will just put up with it though so I can't be arsed getting outraged over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love-Wilcox Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) Fuck me, Vince has lost it (again!). What an absolute lunatic. EDIT: Andrew Yang weighing in on Twitter  Edited September 5, 2020 by Love-Wilcox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted September 5, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted September 5, 2020 Seems an incredibly foolish move at a time when there’s another company run by a money mark willing to pay top dollar to talent, not to mention the possibility of maintaining a good income working for the second tier promotions (Impact, MLW, NWA etc) and indies on the side. If he’d have done this 5 years ago then fine, the wrestlers were fucked for alternatives, but the timing is odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsfromlee Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I wouldn’t be surprised if Vince starts getting them to move over from Twitch to a version on the Network as well as starting his own WWE version of Cameo.  I doubt he’s bothered by them doing it, he’s just bothered that he’s not getting a cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Surely eventually shareholders or the family have got to intervene and get the old man out the picture before he’s even more detrimental to the company then already he is   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonworden Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, wordsfromlee said: I wouldn’t be surprised if Vince starts getting them to move over from Twitch to a version on the Network as well as starting his own WWE version of Cameo.  I doubt he’s bothered by them doing it, he’s just bothered that he’s not getting a cut. I would guess it's not down to money but the fact that new media platforms that Vince doesn't understand are making more and more of his roster famous and well off without needing Vince to do it and not really even needing his TV time either. Basically he/ WWE doesn't want a whole bunch of their talent to be rich enough and/ or famous enough to just fuck them off and do something else or work somewhere else. It's a pretty common trait in rich business people I find, I used to work for a guy who had a really decent size company he had built up and anyone starting their own thing whether it was directly related or not was trounced if he didn't get to be their "mentor" and basically get a cut.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsurutagun Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Question, does this also apply to backstage people who do podcasts on Fridays with people in mortgage industry. If not, I could see the wrestlers really kicking off about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, wordsfromlee said: I wouldn’t be surprised if Vince starts getting them to move over from Twitch to a version on the Network as well as starting his own WWE version of Cameo.  I doubt he’s bothered by them doing it, he’s just bothered that he’s not getting a cut. I think this is ultimately what it boils down to. I’ve no idea what kind of percentage Cameo takes from each video a talent does (I assume it’s a decent amount) but I wouldn’t be surprised to see WWE launch there own version I the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 So Vince WAS everyone's real Dad all along... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsfromlee Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, simonworden said: I would guess it's not down to money but the fact that new media platforms that Vince doesn't understand are making more and more of his roster famous and well off without needing Vince to do it and not really even needing his TV time either. Basically he/ WWE doesn't want a whole bunch of their talent to be rich enough and/ or famous enough to just fuck them off and do something else or work somewhere else. It's a pretty common trait in rich business people I find, I used to work for a guy who had a really decent size company he had built up and anyone starting their own thing whether it was directly related or not was trounced if he didn't get to be their "mentor" and basically get a cut.  Of course it’s down to money. It always is. It’s not because of Vince not understanding new media platforms because then he’d ban them from twitter, Instagram and YouTube too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonworden Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, wordsfromlee said: Of course it’s down to money. It always is. It’s not because of Vince not understanding new media platforms because then he’d ban them from twitter, Instagram and YouTube too. I do disagree as you might have guessed. Hard to know what they are actually thinking but I genuinely think it's about the not needing Vince, perhaps there is a financial side related directly to company profit but they've been making plenty so I doubt it. The comment about Vince not understanding platforms being a reason was more of a joke to lead into my main opinion on why though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaffer Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) It's not just the fiscal and - y'know - ethical side of it either. Imagine having to rely on WWE programming as the only vehicle to get your personality over. Christ. Edited September 5, 2020 by Gay as FOOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogue Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Would WWE have a leg to stand on if someone like Orton were to carry on and not be punished while some NXT mid carder is sacked for doing the same? I suppose it comes down to what Punk said on twitter, if they all ignore it and carry on as they are, they can't all be sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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