Paid Members Devon Malcolm 14,293 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Scott Malbranque said: I would imagine Ben Stiller and Robert Downey Jr are anticipating a fierce rotten furore over Tropic Thunder any minute now So they should. It's dreadful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guy Bifkin 1,175 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I wonder what repressed minority David Baddiel has to say about it on Twitter.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay 9,145 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Has anyone ever been less funny than David Baddiel, who maintained a career based off good choices in who his friends were? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wordsfromlee 3,245 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, Scott Malbranque said: I would imagine Ben Stiller and Robert Downey Jr are anticipating a fierce rotten furore over Tropic Thunder any minute now There was a big thing on Twitter earlier this year where a bunch of teenagers discovered Tropic Thunder for the first time and tried to get Robert Downey cancelled.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack 871 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Every single article I have seen about this has had someone comment about White Chick's within a few minutes. Predictable and shite. Much like the non Terry Crews bits of the film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members tiger_rick 11,867 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, ReturnOfTheMack said: Every single article I have seen about this has had someone comment about White Chick's within a few minutes. Predictable and shite. Much like the non Terry Crews bits of the film. It would only be fair if Comedy Central were banned from showing it every other week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack 871 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, tiger_rick said: It would only be fair if Comedy Central were banned from showing it every other week. I see no issue with thatĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Monkee 1,053 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) This is a really interesting topic to read. A couple of months ago I was asked by an audience review website Iām on to watch Lenny Henryās Race Through Comedy. ItāsĀ available online if anyoneās interested: https://www.sky.com/watch/title/series/7b374772-d68d-476a-bf19-706efc78e4b7 Ā Itās very enlightening (from my perspective of being white) as to how comedies from the past were seen from a BAME perspective. Iām not sure the programme did the subject justice really as it was crammed into an hour and I got bored for about 20mins in between however it looked at the Black & White Minstrel Show, Love Thy Neighbour, Rising Damp, etc. I think I remember someone sayingĀ that even though Love Thy Neighbour was taking the piss out of the Alf Garnett characterĀ it still promoted racism. Either because people didnāt get it (as previously mentioned) orĀ because this was the only representation of black people thatĀ some white people had seen so they learned new [profoundly racist] terminology they might never have learned if it wasnāt for these programmes. What struck me though is that I was left feeling that these programmes that are now deemed unacceptableĀ shouldnāt just be erased for no-one to ever see them again. They should be held up as examples of what is not acceptable. A good example is Disney and their old non-PC films. Instead of just deleting them and pretending it never happened, there are now disclaimers saying they were made in a different time and some content is not acceptable now but it teaches children (and some adults) to understand WHY itās no longer acceptable. You canāt delete history but you do have to learn from it without glorifying it. Having said that, I saw a tweet earlier saying something like, āThis is ridiculous, itās comedy FFS!ā in relation to Little Britain being taken off air. Comedy is subjective but it doesnāt give a free pass to being offensive and you canāt object to the offence if youāre not the one offended. If that makes sense. Edited June 11, 2020 by Monkee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Nexus 388 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, wordsfromlee said: Or Fawlty Towers I watched Fawlty Towers for the first time ever a month or so ago. I really did not find it funny and I thought the way Manuel was talked about has aged horribly.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Monkee 1,053 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Monkee said: Lenny Henryās Race Through Comedy. ItāsĀ available online if anyoneās interested: https://www.sky.com/watch/title/series/7b374772-d68d-476a-bf19-706efc78e4b7 Ah, ok so there were actually 3 episodes looking at sitcoms, stand-up and sketch shows. I only watched the sitcoms one so it might be interesting to see whatās covered in the other 2 for more insight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuperBacon 8,008 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Chest Rockwell said: Someone's at work ringing around to find out how much the streaming rights to Desmond's will cost right now as we speak. Must include Porkpie as well (I loved it) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmoney 4,523 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Desmond's used to be on every day on London Live. Worth moving to the capital for.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wordsfromlee 3,245 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, Nexus said: I watched Fawlty Towers for the first time ever a month or so ago. I really did not find it funny and I thought the way Manuel was talked about has aged horribly.Ā So hasĀ the conversation between Basil and the Major where they discuss which racial slur the India cricket team isĀ and which the West Indies cricket team is.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members BomberPat 7,816 Posted June 11, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, wordsfromlee said: So hasĀ the conversation between Basil and the Major where they discuss which racial slur the India cricket team isĀ and which the West Indies cricket team is.Ā This is an interesting one, in that it's (I think) a very well constructed joke, where the punchline is that a character like the Major would uncharacteristically object to a racist slur, only for the revelation to then be not that he objects to the slur in principle, but that he's being specific about which slur to use. It's about subverting expectations. The problem is that for this to work, part of the joke has to be taking some degree of joy from the transgression of saying the slur in the first place. It's aged badly and that's fine. Comedy reflects the social values of the time, so it's only right that it would age faster than most genres. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Danger 3,415 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said: So they should. It's dreadful. It does offer a fascinating insight in to the sense of humour of Tom Cruise as I remember him laughing hysterically at his Les Grossman character and talking about gettingĀ a franchise out of it. A Tom Cruise gross out comedy would have been a befuddling curiosity to behold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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