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Just been in the smaller of the two Tesco in Lincoln. Things were pretty much in stock apart from loo roll and pet food. Did see one guy at the till getting told by the checkout girl that he couldn't

I'll eventually work through all the messages but I'm safe. Thanks folks. I'm still an absolute mess but safe all the same. 

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1 hour ago, jazzygeofferz said:

We can't afford to relax as we don't really want a third lockdown, but between December 23rd & 27th we'll relax everything.

Not sure Whitty and Valance could grind their teeth any harder.  It's not against the rules... but best not to do it.

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Cases in Jersey were on the decline, dropped below 140. 

30+ cases were identified yesterday all from one event. Apparently is was a "private function at a hospitality venue", with gossip being that it was a party at a hotel where no social distancing measures were followed.

It's a complete guess, but they were filming Real Housewives of Jersey up until recently- I wonder if they're still filming behind closed doors, and that's why a "private function" has been allowed to take place against all rules and guidance. 

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The work saga continues.

A union survey revealed that half of council employees don't feel safe at work. A third worry that if they raise concerns that'll count as a mark against then (to be fair, when I raised concerns it was apparently due to "mental health issues").

Naturally, the head of libraries felt that this would be a good day to tell people that they will break bubbles and send staff across multiple sites if they feel they need to. This is because our sites are "very Covid secure" and bubbles are only an "extra step" to reassure people.

1) Not entirely sure that multiple sites closing due to Covid counts as "very" secure. If my house was broken into multiple times in 1 week I'm not sure I'd brag about how secure it was...

2) The sites closed because people outside of those teams went to those workplaces. It was "essential" we stayed open and yet the new plan could result in even more sites closing.

3) You might not want to revoke a "reassuring" extra step on the day that a survey reveals half your staff don't feel safe. 

4) Don't also email on the same day to point out that due to Covid guidance you're spending less time at work. Someone might ask why some "extra steps" can be followed and some can't. 

5) Are we going to be telling the vulnerable support groups we're inviting to these sites that we're removing safety precautions?

6) There's no point me saying any of this because it'll just be put down as a "mental health" problem. Which, of course, results in mental health problems.

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Out of curiosity does anyone know why Zoom immediately cornered a market that Skype seemed already geared to? Middle management at my place were always having Skype conferences pre-lockdown but suddenly Zoom became the new thing.

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Zoom was already being used in a lot of businesses, so they had the infrastructure and ability to scale. Their UX is easier for people to use but crucially the biggest factor is that you don't need to sign up for anything or download anything.

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On 8/19/2020 at 12:49 PM, SuperBacon said:

Someone I used to see back in my single days got back in touch just before all this kicked off and asked if I wanted to go for a drink.

I said yes obviously, but recently it's come to light that she is a massive anti-vaxxer and has some questionable views about the seriousness of Covid 19 and the 'plan for the government to indoctrinate and control us' through mass vaccination.

Really surprising as she has always seemed a pretty smart and level headed person, but some of the shit she is posting and saying is appalling. 

Still going for the drink though, as to be honest, she is really fit.

 

Update on this: She got 'arrested' yesterday at the anti lockdown protest according to her Instagram so probably won't be going for that drink. Probably.

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51 minutes ago, air_raid said:

Out of curiosity does anyone know why Zoom immediately cornered a market that Skype seemed already geared to? Middle management at my place were always having Skype conferences pre-lockdown but suddenly Zoom became the new thing.

We use teams exclusively and it causes no end of issues when we do anything with anyone else for training, seminars or conferences because we aren't allowed zoom on our work network, the right to install software is owned by about 3 people overseas, and everyone else on earth seems to use zoom. As a result I need to use my personal phone or put in a request for a work laptop that's not part of our internal network, which takes a fucking age to sort. 

It's made working from home a dream though, and I'm actually more productive using that for chat and calls than email, phone or walking 15 minutes across the site to talk for 5 minutes. 

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1 hour ago, air_raid said:

Out of curiosity does anyone know why Zoom immediately cornered a market that Skype seemed already geared to? Middle management at my place were always having Skype conferences pre-lockdown but suddenly Zoom became the new thing.

Microsoft had fragmented Skype to within an inch of its life and hadn't got the pieces back together before Covid hit.  Skype (consumer), Skype for Business, and Teams didn't (and probably still don't) all talk to each other properly.  One person on Skype, one person on SfB, and one person on Teams couldn't have a call.
However, people using Teams and SfB could not sign up for consumer Skype with their organisational Office 365 accounts.
Businesses couldn't use SfB or Teams without ponying up (IIRC Microsoft did then open up some free Teams licences).
Use Skype (consumer) but you'll have to add me as massivepenis69 rather than business email didn't look too great.

Zoom was a flat product.  You could send the same link to your nan as to the CEO without the interoperability issues of the various flavours of Microsoft's communications products.  Not a fan of it from an auditing and regulatory front but I can see why it caught on.  Right thing at the right time.  (Plenty of businesses and institutions are using it without licencing it properly so I can see a reckoning happening once the pandemic is over and Zoom won't take a massive PR hit for chasing up dues).

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1 hour ago, Tommy! said:

We use teams exclusively and it causes no end of issues when we do anything with anyone else for training, seminars or conferences because we aren't allowed zoom on our work network, the right to install software is owned by about 3 people overseas, and everyone else on earth seems to use zoom. As a result I need to use my personal phone or put in a request for a work laptop that's not part of our internal network, which takes a fucking age to sort. 

It's made working from home a dream though, and I'm actually more productive using that for chat and calls than email, phone or walking 15 minutes across the site to talk for 5 minutes. 

My work is the same when it comes to Teams, absolutely insistent that it is the only option. Which is fine when it’s all internal or to other businesses but when I have to do calls with people who don’t work for us or members of the public, it just can’t be done without jumping through a big pile of hoops. It’s easy, say IT, you can get Teams through your browser. Yes, I reply, if you have the right browser installed and have a Microsoft account to sign in from. Don’t care, reply IT, Teams or nowt. I was eventually allowed to get a (free) Zoom account on my work laptop but it took hours of convincing.

We’ve got a big recruitment season coming up after Christmas and all interviews are going to be over video call, and the head of recruitment remains convinced it will be 100% done on Teams. (It won’t)

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42 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

Yes, I reply, if you have the right browser installed and have a Microsoft account to sign in from.

Do you know if that has been specifically turned off as being able to join Teams meetings as a guest without an MS account is standard.  Click the link, type in Fred Bloggs (or any other name you'd like to appear under your face) and wait to be admitted.

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2 hours ago, johnnyboy said:

Do you know if that has been specifically turned off as being able to join Teams meetings as a guest without an MS account is standard.  Click the link, type in Fred Bloggs (or any other name you'd like to appear under your face) and wait to be admitted.

Both my wife and I tried it on several devices, we installed recommended browsers, we clicked every right link, still neither of us could get past ‘Sign in to your Microsoft Account’.

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1 hour ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

Both my wife and I tried it on several devices, we installed recommended browsers, we clicked every right link, still neither of us could get past ‘Sign in to your Microsoft Account’.

Yeah, it makes me wonder if your company has turned off the option in their Teams policies or have no guests set as default.

Teams can allow guests to join meetings from a functionality standpoint.  Whether your organisational policies have Teams set to allow guests is another thing.

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