Merzbow Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Tinfoil hat time but they were aiming for the controversy, getting as many reactions as possible regardless of being good or bad. (Please don't think I'm being serious here..) Edited October 7, 2019 by Merzbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UK Kat Von D Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Merzbow said: Tinfoil hat time but they were aiming for the controversy, getting as many reactions as possible regardless of being good or bad. (Please don't think I'm being serious here..) Well that makes more sense than a DQ finish to a HIAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I'd begin to blame it on Easy E then but it's the main event of the other show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Merzbow said: I'd begin to blame it on Easy E then but it's the main event of the other show. Not allowed to blame Heyman though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, King Pitcos said: Not allowed to blame Heyman though. He's a special boy who gave us the almighty ECW (lol) so no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Bellenda Carlisle Posted October 7, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 7, 2019 Surprised the show sent people into an anti-Vince frenzy, I thought it was alright. All the thrown together matches ended up being decent and some of it was really good. wasn't sure about the red lights at first but at least they were trying something different. Obviously a DQ in a HIAC is shit but it felt more like a standard dodgy finish where no one has to lose than something really offensive, Seth came off looking weak but I think it was more about trying to not have Bray take a loss than protecting Seth (although everyone hated it so I guess it was a misstep). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Dem Wanz Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, King Pitcos said: Not allowed to blame Heyman though. Unless it's his hygiene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted October 7, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Sheffbag said: The network is pulling in roughly $15M a month or $180 million a year alone without counting TV deals, Saudi money, Live event money (around $150-200K a show based on last years 5000 average attendance and $30-40 average ticket price) In 2006 WWE income was $400M, in 2017 it was $800M. If i ran a company that managed to increase its turnover by $400 million in 12 years i'd be happy. You can only see this increasing over time (based on the last 14 years growth on growth) WWE is like the premier league. The crowds don't matter as the clubs (or in WWE case, the brand) profits are not directly linked to live attendance any more. WWE could probably run empty arena TV shows and still make a profit on them from TV deals and Network subscribers alone https://corporate.wwe.com/~/media/Files/W/WWE/press-releases/2019/q4-2018-pr.pdf Income isn't profit and I'm sure costs have gone up massively since 2006, but I get your point. My point is that if ratings and subscribers continue to drop in the steady way they are surely that's something they need to urgently fix before it's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted October 7, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, King Pitcos said: Not allowed to blame Heyman though. He's never booked a main event ending this stupid before so I reckon it's fair for most fans to assume it was the work of the people who have booked all the other fucking idiotic endings of the past 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, LaGoosh said: He's never booked a main event ending this stupid before so I reckon it's fair for most fans to assume it was the work of the people who have booked all the other fucking idiotic endings of the past 10 years. People plural? Who is on the “we’re allowed to blame them” list these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted October 7, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Who cares? The fans usually never know who actually came up with a certain storyline or finish. Edited October 7, 2019 by LaGoosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpSquids Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I'm four minutes in, and I doubt this show can hope to follow the bearded gent in the background during the Spanish announce team introduction. Seminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGIT Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, King Pitcos said: Not allowed to blame Heyman though. I like Heyman as much as I like anyone in wrestling but I tend to agree. There's been so much pap on news sites saying after any decent change, "that was a Heyman idea, he was all for it." And after any questionable booking, "Heyman was against that, but was overruled." It's clear bollocks. So much crap comes on my timeline, Heyman wants to push this guy, Heymans doing this and that. It's clear it's just people watching RAW and making assumptions based on what their favourite bits are. There's the placebo effect also. Sit 10 "smart" wrestling fans down to watch an event booked by a McMahon they'll have loads of moans about it. Show them the same show and tell them Heyman booked it they'll probs say it's great. WWE have every right to capitalise on this and I'm sure that's what they're trying, to an extent anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Besides all this kerfuffle, people haven't talked about that relatively unprotected chairshot to the head that Bray took. The first time I can remember someone being hit in the head with a chair in years in WWE, and it meant nothing. Except of course I'm pretty sure Sasha Banks took a chair to the head in their HITC match earlier, but I presume that was unintentional. In any event, the women's cell match was a lot better than the men's. Between that and the blood, and a few other things over the last few weeks, it does feel like they're loosening the PG apron strings a touch, but there's no point unless it means something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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