Angle_fan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I can't believe it seems like Bryan's going to lose. They've been showcasing him as the best wrestler on the planet pretty much. I don't think he should be losing to anybody. I get that they need someone major to put Hangman over but it should have been somebody else. Nobody should be doing any better than a draw with Bryan for a long time yet. I'd have had him become champion eventually whilst still being undefeated. Have him defeat all challengers, face and heel with just wrestling like he does so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 But he's in a position where a loss will do absolutely zero damage to him while elevating his opponent substantially so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members I Bent My Wookie Posted December 8, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted December 8, 2021 Was there something a few years back where after Bryan got released for the Tie incident, Paul Heyman mentioned about how he'd book him in TNA to just smash through everyone on his way to the title, just submitting or knocking people out before coming up against some monster and beating him easy? In some ways this feels like that. Danielson steam rolls everyone and beats Hangman for the belt because he's the best wrestler in the world. It sets Page up as well to keep doing what he does best, chasing. He's not wrestled since Omega whereas Danielson has stayed match ready. If Page loses because he's out wrestled, this time his passion just couldn't get it done, he'll feel like he should've avenged the Dark Order. Have him start his redemption arc by trying to improve in ring, storyline wise of course. Even try and get someone as a mentor because he does feel like the type of character that could use wisdom now and again. It may be a complete rehash of him and Omega but if you can say in a year that Page stopped Omega when he was at his highest and became the first man to beat an unstoppable Danielson, maybe even by submission, he'd be their biggest star by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted December 8, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted December 8, 2021 If that happened Page will be dead in the water. How can the fans get behind a guy who chased the big one for 2 years then immediately loses it? Page needs a decent run and after a long heel title reign the show needs a decent babyface one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members I Bent My Wookie Posted December 8, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted December 8, 2021 In much more alarming AEW news   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Let’s not get carried away, Bryan is smashing lower card guys. It’s not like he’s beating top talent on this run since the PPV. He can take the defeat here and move on a fortnight later to something else and have the fans backing him again. I still worry as to why hangman hasn’t wrestled since the ppv. Even if hurt, losing here makes him look like all the worst level of first time champs wwe did then destroyed right away. And as first aew built star, gives a heavy TNA reek of our wrestlers aren’t as good as the wwe guys that arrive in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Old School Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 The champion shouldn't be Wrestling all the time though should they? "The champion must wrestle every week" is a very WWE thing. It should always be a big deal, sure have the odd exhibition match like Omega did with Angels etc, but he should be Wrestling the absolute minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Land Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Louch said: Let’s not get carried away, Bryan is smashing lower card guys. It’s not like he’s beating top talent on this run since the PPV. He can take the defeat here and move on a fortnight later to something else and have the fans backing him again. I still worry as to why hangman hasn’t wrestled since the ppv. Even if hurt, losing here makes him look like all the worst level of first time champs wwe did then destroyed right away. And as first aew built star, gives a heavy TNA reek of our wrestlers aren’t as good as the wwe guys that arrive in Hangman has been handicapped by the storyline. He can't really wrestle until he faces Danielson. Once Winter is Coming was booked, you could then set up a match for Hangman to knock off the rust I suppose. It's just they'd be saving anyone decent for post-Danielson. Beating scrubs works for Danielson being a heelish bully, it doesn't really work for Hangman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted December 8, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Shy Dad said: In much more alarming AEW news   I eagerly await the "Jack Evans busted on drug charges in Mexico" headlines to start breaking in the next few days then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organizedkaos Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 hours ago, The King of Old School said: The champion shouldn't be Wrestling all the time though should they? "The champion must wrestle every week" is a very WWE thing. It should always be a big deal, sure have the odd exhibition match like Omega did with Angels etc, but he should be Wrestling the absolute minimum. So I started watching AEW around the Danielson debut PPV, I imagine many others did the same. I saw Kenny Omega defend the title once before losing it to Page, however it felt like I saw him wrestle a lot, at least a couple non title matches and it dfelt like he was in a bunch of multi man matches. I was very aware of him as champion without him actually defending the belt. I realise it helped him being part of a big focal stable so even if he wasn't wrestling he was hanging out with people on screen etc. But yeah, he felt like a presence... I've not seen most of the Adam Page storyline (well I watched those youtube videos that helped). He seems like a fun wrestler in the one and a half matches I saw of him. I have no sense of him as a champion really, it's only been in contect o him defending against Danielson. They could've had him do something in these last three weeks. There'll be a lot of new fans that have barely seen him wrestle. The Winter is Coming match to me feels like "Bryan Danielson challenges for title" not "Adam Page defends title". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted December 8, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted December 8, 2021 AEW just has fewer title defences. Jericho only defended it 4 times. Mox 11. Omega 7. They can't have Hangman win it after that build up and then lose it without a successful title defence - that type of approach seriously damaged Naito and Ibushi in NJPW. He can have a shorter reign, by all means, but there's no way he'd be the guy to beat Danielson next year if he couldn't do it this year. Besides which, I want Miro/Hangman next. Agreed that a tag match would have been a good thing by now, but I don't think the show is coming across like Hangman's ducking him or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Land Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I think with the original plan of Mox we probably would of have seen Hangman + 10/Silver v. Mox & Kingston. The problem with Danielson is he doesn't really have anyone to team with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted December 8, 2021 Awards Moderator Share Posted December 8, 2021 It’s only been three weeks. Week 1 was meant to be Hangman’s celebration, week 2 he almost hit the Buckshot on Danielson, week 3 he was on commentary. He doesn’t have to wrestle to be part of the show. It’s hardly been a case of Lesnar winning a belt then sodding off for six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyAnderson Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, Infinity Land said: I think with the original plan of Mox we probably would of have seen Hangman + 10/Silver v. Mox & Kingston. The problem with Danielson is he doesn't really have anyone to team with. Page doesn't have to face Danielson before their title match though. He could still team with any member(s) of the Dark Order in a tag team match. Though I'm not that fussed Hangman hasn't wrestled. He's being presented as the one wanting to fight Danielson, while Bryan wants to fight anyone but Page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organizedkaos Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said: It’s only been three weeks. Week 1 was meant to be Hangman’s celebration, week 2 he almost hit the Buckshot on Danielson, week 3 he was on commentary. He doesn’t have to wrestle to be part of the show. It’s hardly been a case of Lesnar winning a belt then sodding off for six months. Oh yeah, arguably I think it's more they could've had him doing some stuff before the title show as much as after (again saying this from perspective of fan who started watching after he'd gone on hiatus). Although it seems maybe like this wasn't the exact plan and might be to do with injuries/rust/new baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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