Paid Members Teedy Kay Posted July 12, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 12, 2022 I heard after shagging some lass in a cleaners cupboard on the proviso she'd get a job in No. 10 he went to hold the door open for her to exit, but realised 'chivalry is a hate crime' so allowed her to open it herself. She didn't get the job in Downing Street, but has since been given excellent references and the funds to move to Australia to work as long as she keeps the baby a secret. Fucking Woke, first time the working classes have voted this way, has he forgot Thatcher? Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Duke said: Someone who knows how to get on Fox News.  Yep. It’s Tucker Carlson and this dweeb is saying exactly what his audience want to hear. It’s a lucrative market and being invited back to talk about anything UK related is what he’s going for.  I remember Ash Sarkar on a panel show saying how in the green room everyone is friends and then they get in front of camera and have a bun fight before all attending the same cocktail parties. Some Tory, probably Iain Dale said something like “I can tell you’re never invited to those parties” and the rest all guffawed. Ash said “Yes, that’s exactly my point, you’re all mates off camera”. It’s why Mick Lynch was so refreshing, he doesn’t have to worry about being invited back so could speak outside of the TV shows usual parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted July 13, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 13, 2022 16 hours ago, Duke said: I just came here to say that apparently Rees-Mogg called Sunak a socialist. Let that sink in. The thing with Rees-Mogg is that he knows exactly what buttons to press for the Tory base. My mate's mum is very much the target audience - elderly, wealthy, white Christian Daily Mail reader who still owns the house she grew up in, whose views on authority, legality and morality can be summed up by the fact that when she was called to do jury duty, she immediately decided that the accused was guilty, because "why else would he be up in court?". She hated Tony Benn, and was completely swayed by the papers calling Ed Miliband "Red Ed", and is of a generation where any suggestion of lefty leanings is the biggest possible black mark on a politician. I daren't even think what she thought of Corbyn. JRM plays to that crowd, with a little to the imported American right-wingisms that are starting to take over our politics - and to the people who entered or started following politics as a result of those Americanisms (much of the 2019 intake, it seems), they've also adopted the "socialism is scary and evil" rhetoric of American politics, where you just say it without any justification and your followers buy it. He's, in many ways, the closest thing we have in mainstream British politics to the evangelical brand of American Republican, just dressed up in Victorian English trappings and fixation on the inner workings of parliamentary politics (until they don't work for him). Under all the gimmicks, he's just continuing the disaster capitalism projects of his father (though he's not half as smart with it) - under all the "MP for 1896" gimmickry and harking back to the glory of the British Empire and Imperial weights and measures, he's not actually reaching for a return to the past, his politics is a very modern approach to unfettered capitalism. 16 hours ago, David said: The thing is, even those who think Johnson did a good job with Brexit and the Covid situation surely must recognise that he's making a mockery of the office of Prime Minister now? Any good he's done in the eyes of those who consider him somewhat of a success is being diminished by his antics now. I think to the people like my mate's Mum, you're right - my mate turned her around on supporting Boris Johnson by asking her, "do you really think Thatcher would have had any time for him in her cabinet?". But there's a lot of people who only became engaged with politics in 2016, so ideas like the office of Prime Minister and appropriate parliamentary ethics or behaviour don't really mean anything to them, or else it's just all a game. This is where I think the Trump comparisons are valid - if you're brought into politics by things like Boris Johnson's personality, and the Brexit vote, or Donald Trump, if you're convinced that a process as complex as leaving the European Union can be reduced to a simple Yes/No binary exercise, then every negotiation, every re-litigation of that question is going to feel like some shady establishment power is trying to work against "the will of the people", especially when whatever media you're consuming, whatever social media bubbles you're in, are repeating that point ad nauseum. People think that Johnson has been stitched up, that he's not been allowed the unilateral power they seem to think a leadership position warrants, and that any point of parliamentary order isn't a rule to be followed but a cudgel that, to use the American term, "The Deep State" is wielding against him. When that's the starting point of your politics, it becomes classic conspiracy theory logic - everything your guy does right is true and just, everything he gets wrong or is criticised for is all lies and just further evidence of forces working against him. I don't think all that results in a Trump-like grab for power, refusal to leave office when the time comes, or an English January 6th or anything like that, but it's born of the same mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Duke Posted July 13, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, BomberPat said: The thing with Rees-Mogg is that he knows exactly what buttons to press for the Tory base. My mate's mum is very much the target audience - elderly, wealthy, white Christian Daily Mail reader who still owns the house she grew up in, whose views on authority, legality and morality can be summed up by the fact that when she was called to do jury duty, she immediately decided that the accused was guilty, because "why else would he be up in court?". She hated Tony Benn, and was completely swayed by the papers calling Ed Miliband "Red Ed", and is of a generation where any suggestion of lefty leanings is the biggest possible black mark on a politician. I daren't even think what she thought of Corbyn. JRM plays to that crowd, with a little to the imported American right-wingisms that are starting to take over our politics - and to the people who entered or started following politics as a result of those Americanisms (much of the 2019 intake, it seems), they've also adopted the "socialism is scary and evil" rhetoric of American politics, where you just say it without any justification and your followers buy it. He's, in many ways, the closest thing we have in mainstream British politics to the evangelical brand of American Republican, just dressed up in Victorian English trappings and fixation on the inner workings of parliamentary politics (until they don't work for him). Under all the gimmicks, he's just continuing the disaster capitalism projects of his father (though he's not half as smart with it) - under all the "MP for 1896" gimmickry and harking back to the glory of the British Empire and Imperial weights and measures, he's not actually reaching for a return to the past, his politics is a very modern approach to unfettered capitalism. I think he's certainly trying to do that, but he's good enough to pull it off. That Sunak comment barely got a mention outside of twitter, and your mate's mum isn't going to be full twitterati.  The irony of your (correct) evangelical comparison is they'd absolutely hate him because he's Catholic. We've also talked a lot about the people who started voting in 2016 and paying attention in 2019 and what they'll do. Surely the answer is that they'll do what they did before and just not vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Duke said: That Sunak comment barely got a mention outside of twitter They mentioned it and discussed it on BBC Politics Live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members stumobir Posted July 13, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 13, 2022 It’s 2022 and one of the favourites for the top job opened her leadership bid by talking about the Falkland’s War. We’re on a downward spiral of jingoistic nastiness in this country, pandering to the absolute worst people we have to offer. On the same day that report is published highlighting that we have the highest income inequality and lowest disposable income of any Western European country, including those bastions of economic stability Italy and Spain. Same report reckons the average household is £8,800 a year poorer than the equivalent in Germany and France. But this isn’t important, much better to talk about willies and a war that finished 40 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted July 13, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, stumobir said: It’s 2022 and one of the favourites for the top job opened her leadership bid by talking about the Falkland’s War. Let me guess- Mordaunt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69MeDon Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) I know this will amount to nothing but the headline is just so very UK 2022, from the Guardian: "UK government to table no confidence motion in itself" https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/13/uk-government-to-table-no-confidence-motion-in-itself  Edited July 13, 2022 by 69MeDon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Duke Posted July 13, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Keith Houchen said: They mentioned it and discussed it on BBC Politics Live. Like I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted July 13, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 13, 2022 It's on the front of the Express and Mail today as well.. Speaking of whom it looks like they're backing Liz Truss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathrey Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Gotta back the white girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, deathrey said: Gotta back the white girl. I think if Mordaunt makes it into the final with Sunak she will win. She’s polling first among the membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members stumobir Posted July 13, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 13, 2022 To be fair, the two non-white girls in it are fucking mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Duke Posted July 13, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 hours ago, jazzygeofferz said: It's on the front of the Express and Mail today as well.. . Well then, I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westlondonmist Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Not surprised Hunt is out, guy looks like he dresses up as his mum and stabs women in the shower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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