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32 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

The problem - and I say this as someone who's known Ben since he was 16 - I don't know who Nelson Frazer is, nor did I really know who Ben Carter was. He was the epitome of a "happy to be here" babyface. That's exactly who he is in real life, but it's not the most compelling wrestling gimmick. If Nelson Frazer was a step toward showing a bit more character, it would make sense, but as it is, it seems pointless.

It's something that WWE just do because they know the audience know they'll sometimes change wrestler's names (my understanding is that he's dropped "Carter" because there's already a Carter in NXT proper, and he's US-bound eventually), so they may as well just get on with it. But doing it after he's already debuted and not bothering to explain it because "eh, fans already get it" is lazy, even by NXT UK standards. 

There's already a Carter in NXT UK is as likely the reason.

It's not just an NXT UK thing, it happens in NXT (US) often.   Damian Priest had 1 match as Punishment Martinez, then comes out a few weeks later, same gimmick, different name, no explanation.   That's a recent example, but it happens there too.

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Can both of you shut up please?

Primate?

Good.  Too many low rent "Companies" playing at being Vince as it is.  If your business model doesn't account for wages and safety, then you shouldn't be operating.

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22 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

The problem - and I say this as someone who's known Ben since he was 16 - I don't know who Nelson Frazer is, nor did I really know who Ben Carter was. He was the epitome of a "happy to be here" babyface. That's exactly who he is in real life, but it's not the most compelling wrestling gimmick. If Nelson Frazer was a step toward showing a bit more character, it would make sense, but as it is, it seems pointless.

What do you think would work for him? 

Based purely on his AEW stuff, I think he could make for a great wide-eyed idealist. Someone who has grown up on wrestling, possibly from a deprived background, who has given it his all and has genuine talent. His size alone is a stumbling block - lots of sympathy when he gets beaten down, bullied, etc - but he overcomes it with his enthusiasm and belief. His belief that he's destined to main event Wrestlemania one day is something others mainly find amusing, but he's genuinely going to put everything into getting there. Kind of Billy Elliott meets Shouyou from 'Haikyuu!!'. 

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51 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

(my understanding is that he's dropped "Carter" because there's already a Carter in NXT proper, and he's US-bound eventually)

I was going to ask if that's still something WWE are worried about, because it's felt like there are loads of people with the same names lately... but having looked at it, it's mostly first names that are shared. Apart from Carter... which before this name change, there were three of. Kayden Carter in NXT, Oliver Carter in NXT UK and then Ben Carter as well. Not sure why they needed to change Ben to Nathan but I can understand changing the surname. The only other repetition they have right now is Keith Lee and Wes Lee and Xia Li. Better than AEW with their two Pages and their two Cages and Orange Cassidy and Isiah Kassidy.

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If it helps, we can all just tell ourselves that the name change is a tribute to King Mabel / Viscera (Nelson Frazier).

Edit - oh no, Ben's new name is Nathan isn't it, not Nelson. Oh well. Bet he still loves Mabel though.

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