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The psychopathic belief Owen Roddy shows in that brilliant interview is infectious. I came out of it with a huge, stupid grin on my face, imagining if Conor somehow knocks him out. It'll be the greatest moment ever. I get goosebumps just thinking about it. 

There looks to be talk of a world tour of press conferences, including doing one in Ireland. If that happens I think I'll attend. The one where Conor grabbed Aldo's belt remains one of the best events I've ever attended. It was magic in that room. 

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12 minutes ago, David said:

It'll be interesting to see how the usually unflappable Mayweather reacts to a consistent stream of psychological warfare. 

It'll be great. I thought Aldo was going to kill himself during that press tour - it was pure torture & bullying. McGregor had him demented. Of all the people to lose to... poor cunt, lol.

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24 minutes ago, herbie747 said:

It'll be great. I thought Aldo was going to kill himself during that press tour - it was pure torture & bullying. McGregor had him demented. Of all the people to lose to... poor cunt, lol.

thing is, Aldo is generally a likeable fellow by all accounts. Mayweather though? I'd gladly pay to see him get the piss taken out of him.

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Mayweather is going to get destroyed in the press conferences. McGregor will lay all the domestic violence stuff out there too - and really push it hard. He's a verbal assassin. 

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There's one major thing that Mayweather holds over Mcgregor when it comes to the verbal exchanges and that's cash. A lot of Mcgregor's trash talk of late has revolved around him being the mega rich draw, the lottery ticket as he puts it. He often comments about his opponents being broke bums etc. This time he won't be able to do that so it will be fascinating to see how he tries to get under Mayweather's skin. 

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9 minutes ago, lambyUK said:

There's one major thing that Mayweather holds over Mcgregor when it comes to the verbal exchanges and that's cash. A lot of Mcgregor's trash talk of late has revolved around him being the mega rich draw, the lottery ticket as he puts it. He often comments about his opponents being broke bums etc. This time he won't be able to do that so it will be fascinating to see how he tries to get under Mayweather's skin. 

He'll easily figure it out. I also wondered how he was going to trash talk Nate after he lost to him the first time since "nobody is on my level" was a huge part of his original schtick - but he still did it.

He'll probably just say it's because Mayweather is 40 and old, and he's just getting started. He'll ask Mayweather how much he had in the bank after 23 fights.

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Anyone see the article in The Guardian about the fight? To say it's a negative viewpoint is an understatement. The guy mentions "race-baiting" as something we'll see in the build-up, among other things;

 

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On Wednesday it was announced the finest boxer of his generation, unbeaten in 49 paying fights and 26 world championship contests with titles in five weight classes, will fight a scheduled 12-round boxing matchagainst an opponent with no professional boxing experience. It doesn’t take an expert to know how this one will play out.

But we groundlings love a sideshow and always have, making us susceptible to promotional stunts like these for as as long as anyone can remember. There was Muhammad Ali’s risible fight with the Japanese pro wrestler Antonio Inoki in 1976, widely regarded as the most embarrassing moment of the Greatest’s career. There were Jesse Owens’ lamentable match races against thoroughbred horses, a humiliating comedown for the Olympic hero who had stared down Hitler in Berlin. There was the much-ballyhooed 150m race between Donovan Bailey and Michael Johnson at Toronto’s SkyDome to determine the title of world’s fastest man, a made-for-TV event that went down 20 years ago this month.

Occasionally, one-offs have positive consequences, like the Battle of the Sexesbetween Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs in 1973, which altered the perception of women’s sports in many doubters’ eyes. But far more often they leave their participants debased unless they’re forgotten altogether: George Foreman, still nursing the psychological wounds of Zaire, taking on five hopelessly shopworn opponents in one night in 1975. Or the cringeworthy one-on-one match at the Trump Taj Mahal between NBA greats Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Julius Erving, retired quadragenarians both, that aired on pay-per-view for $19.95 a pop.

Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor are hardly the first to prey on PT Barnum’s target market, but they’re certain to scale the tried-and-true formula to dizzying profits that would have left the old carnival barker doubled over in laughter. Showtime boxing czar Stephen Espinoza’s straight-faced assessment on Wednesday night offered an understated taste of the bluster to come: “We’ve never seen a combat sports event, or even a sporting event, of this magnitude.”

Over the next 10 weeks, the combined promotional heft of Mayweather Promotions and the Ultimate Fighting Championship will attempt to seduce you into believing the outcome is anything but the foregone conclusion it is. Hell, some of our most visible thought leaders are already biting. You’ll hear plenty about Floyd’s age. You’ll hear about his struggles with left-handed opponents and the strides McGregor has made with his boxing. Later there will be race-baiting on both sides, the same cynical tactics that lifted Jack Johnson v James J Jeffries and Larry Holmes v Gerry Cooney and Mike Tyson v Peter McNeeley to record-breaking profits.

That’s the thing with one-offs: everyone involved knows they only need to fool the customer once. It’s not bad for boxing. It’s not bad for MMA. It’s not anything except a quick-strike money grab with no enduring significance. It’s an exciting fight until it actually starts and it will be forgotten the minute it’s over, unworthy of a chapter in either man’s memoirs.

No amount of salesmanship, misdirection or promotional razzle-dazzle can alter the obvious: McGregor’s chances under the unified rules of boxing that will govern the 26 August meeting are so infinitesimal they’re hardly worth discussing. It’s simply unfathomable that a man with zero fights will defeat any elite boxer, let alone one of the greatest defensive technicians to ever take up the gloves. Just as Mayweather would stand no chance in a mixed martial arts match. Shame on the thirsty Nevada Athletic Commission for sanctioning this circus.

Hardened skeptics pooh-poohed Mayweather’s summit meeting with Manny Pacquiao for happening far past its sell-by date and were partially vindicated by a one-sided fight that left customers feeling let down and ripped off. That outrage almost feels quaint now. At least Floyd and Manny, in the anxious moments before the opening bell, were staring across the ring at the most decorated opponent either had ever been in with.

McGregor? There are 20-year-olds in boxing gyms right now that would light him up like a Christmas tree. That’s at least what’s suggested by the infamous footage of the Irishman’s sparring session last year with Chris van Heerden, a former welterweight belt-holder from South Africa. Sure, there’s reason to believe his clumsy, plodding approach could improve with a training camp devoted completely to boxing. But there’s simply no way he can catch up to the fistic aptitude of Mayweather, who’s been drilled in the mysteries of the sport since childhood. There’s no such thing as a crash course for a lifelong craft.

Remind yourself what Mayweather did to some of the greatest boxers of his era. We’re not even talking about the destruction of Diego Corrales, a fight where Mayweather entered an arguable underdog, before he surrendered his power by climbing in weight to chase the bigger money. Even late-period Floyd’s brittle hands didn’t keep him from making the likes of Juan Manuel Marquez and Canelo Alvarez appear as if they were stumbling around in the dark trying to find the light switch. If that lot couldn’t even find let alone hurt Mayweather, what hope does our Conor have?

Making this fight required the improbable reconciliation of warring interests. But Mayweather-McGregor was inevitable because whenever there’s enough money on the table, people find a way to make things happen. You can’t blame the fighters for taking the payday. The only reason it’s happening is because they don’t merely think you’re gullible enough to buy it. They’re certain of it.

On Saturday night, Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev will meet in a rematch of their terrific unified light heavyweight title fight in November. It is, at least by one metric, the best fight that can be made today: Ward and Kovalev are rated the two best prizefighters in the world, pound for pound, by Ring magazine. As a genuine sports experience, it will be a hundred times better than Mayweather-McGregor and, especially after Wednesday’s announcement, is doomed to receive one-hundredth of the attention.

We’re poorer for that, but we get what we deserve.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, herbie747 said:

He'll easily figure it out. I also wondered how he was going to trash talk Nate after he lost to him the first time since "nobody is on my level" was a huge part of his original schtick - but he still did it.

He'll probably just say it's because Mayweather is 40 and old, and he's just getting started. He'll ask Mayweather how much he had in the bank after 23 fights.

If it goes there, I imagine he'll bring up the fact that Mayweather needs him more because Mayweather's last PPV did underwhelming numbers, where as McGregor does 1M+ these days.

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I'd imagine there'd also be an element of "If MMA had boxing money, I'd have out-earned you years ago", or something to that effect.

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I'm sick of the money talk bollocks myself. From both of them. It's been done to fucking death and it's been tiresome for a long time now. Why would I find it entertaining to listen to two multi-millionaires bickering over who has the most millions in the bank? It's shit, lazy and unimaginative trash talk. 

It's what we'll probably get but I hope it doesn't dominate the build up. There's plenty of other stuff they can both say. If McGregor goes down the money route of shit talking that he's been mostly doing in recent fights then Floyd's not going to be flapping anything. He can shut down Conor quick there, and to people who don't follow MMA Conor will come across as a less rich than Mayweather, Mayweather ripoff. If Conor pushes him on the woman beating stuff though, I think Floyd will find that a lot harder to shrug off. I hope that's what happens, to be honest. Floyd's never been pushed on that issue and boxing journalists will always tiptoe around the subject so as not to get him angry. I'd love to see McGregor go all Irish Jeremy Paxman on him. "Answer the question, Floyd. Answer the fookin' question you little wifebeating twerp." 

It'll all be about money and PPV numbers though. 

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