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8 hours ago, SuperBacon said:

I wouldn't be mad if Hull took some of our highly rated youngsters like Junai Byfield, maybe Mikey Moore if he fancies a season in the top flight, and dare I say it if they're not fancied by De Zerbi for the year, Gray and Bergvall?

That's probably a given. They both started in De Zerbi's first game against Sunderland. Lost the game. Then were benched for the rest of the season. Spurs went on to pick up 11 points out of 18.

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11 minutes ago, Rossman said:

That's probably a given. They both started in De Zerbi's first game against Sunderland. Lost the game. Then were benched for the rest of the season. Spurs went on to pick up 11 points out of 18.

I don't think that's necessarily because of them though, it's quite understandable that he looked to experience to drag Spurs over the line. I like both of them a lot, but I think they could do with a really good loan to get a full season under their belt.

Gray was probably our player of the season, an incredibly low bar I grant you.

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This is no slight on Frankie, and congrats to Palace, but can't help feeling a bit sad for Rayo. I visited Vallecas in 2018 and it lived up to its reputation as an enlightened neighbourhood within a comparatively regressive city - which I think even our own Chest would admit makes it basically the opposite of Croydon.

Whereas with Freiburg last week I'd spent all of ten minutes there on my InterRail 19 years ago and it was pissing it down so didn't really mind Villa walking all over them.

That makes nine English men's teams in Europe then. League Cup preliminary round now needed in late July for the second season running.

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6 hours ago, hallicks said:

TIL that Gazza played for Arsenal - as a guest in Paul Merson’s testimonial. This is from Andy Kelly’s bluesky account:

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Just blew my mind to see him in Arsenal colours.

Geordie Gazza had the Sunderland shorts and socks on in Wes Saunders testimonial, too.

Sport. Football. Wes Saunders Testimonial. pic: 18th May 1997. Premier League All Stars XI 8 v Torquay XI 6. Paul Gascoigne closely is watched closely by his minder Jimmy "Five Bellies" Gardener.

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2 minutes ago, Fog Dude said:

This is no slight on Frankie, and congrats to Palace, but can't help feeling a bit sad for Rayo. I visited Vallecas in 2018 and it lived up to its reputation as an enlightened neighbourhood within a comparatively regressive city - which I think even our own Chest would admit makes it basically the opposite of Croydon.

 

Absolutely. Proper lefty, neighbourhood team.

I still very much wanted Palace to win, but because of the kind of club they are, it would have been more than consolation enough if Rayo had won.

From their Wiki:

 

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Rayo Vallecano’s supporters, particularly the ultras group Bukaneros, are often left-wing, anti-fascist, and politically active.[31] In the stands, they regularly display banners, flags, and visual displays expressing opposition to racism, fascism, homophobia, and the commercialisation of football, while also supporting women's rights, workers' rights, and international solidarity, including pro-Palestine messaging.[28] Chants often carry political content, and fans have a tradition of imaginative collective protest, such as mocking league decisions on match scheduling or highlighting perceived exploitation of supporters. Republican flags, Che Guevara images, and the Spanish Civil War slogan "¡No pasarán!" are commonly displayed at games.[32] In 2014 the club and fan base aided Carmen Martinez Ayudo, an 85-year-old local woman, after she was evicted from her home, and flew banners reading "The evictions of a sick state, the solidarity of a working-class neighbourhood" displayed at the following match.[32][31]

 

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1 hour ago, SuperBacon said:

Two trophies in two seasons?

Are we forgetting the prestigious Charity Shield?

Happy for Palace. Let’s hope it’s not 3/3 for English teams come Saturday. I don’t think I can take them lot winning the Champions League. But feel like it’s inevitable like City. 

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6 minutes ago, TheBurningRed said:

Are we forgetting the prestigious Charity Shield?

Happy for Palace. Let’s hope it’s not 3/3 for English teams come Saturday. I don’t think I can take them lot winning the Champions League. But feel like it’s inevitable like City. 

I don't necessarily know that it is. PSG aren't the most dominant champions ever, but they do hit hard. That first leg with Bayern was ridiculous. And Arsenal haven't been the most convincing they could have been this season. Arteta seems a bit too conservative for his own good sometimes. 

Still, it's odd to me that a team as big as Arsenal haven't won the European Cup/Champion's League, and that Chelsea have won both European trebles before them. Hell, West Ham have more major European trophies.

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Question about Europa qualification. Supposed to get one through the league and one each from the two cups. City won both the cups but obviously are in the Champions League instead but… why are only Bournemouth and Sunderland qualifying? Feels like we’ve been gypped out of a place.

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The FA Cup Europa League place reverts to the highest league finisher outside the Champions League, which was Bournemouth.

The League Cup nowadays only carries with it the Conference League last qualifying round place, which also reverts to the league so has gone to Brighton.

England is only meant to have seven European spots and has ended up with nine so can hardly be said to have missed out.

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27 minutes ago, Fog Dude said:

The League Cup nowadays only carries with it the Conference League last qualifying round place, which also reverts to the league so has gone to Brighton.

OK, so that’s the detail I was missing. I thought a lower league spot was qualifying for the Conference which was awarded anyway and a Europa spot vanished.

28 minutes ago, Fog Dude said:

England is only meant to have seven European spots and has ended up with nine so can hardly be said to have missed out.

Nobody thinks we’d “have missed out” because it looked to me like a Europa spot had vanished into thin air. And “meant to” is a misnomer when extra places have been earned on merit i.e coefficient and Palace winning last night.

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