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[MVP RULZ]

2 hours ago, westlondonmist said:

I hate to sound like an old git (I am one) , but the league cup used to be a fairly big deal too, nothing on the FA Cup but still. At one point even got a European spot. 

I suppose you need the bank holiday weekend for the playoffs which causes issues. The Championship play off final has one of the most fantastic builds you could get though, so makes up for it. 

They still do don't they??

[westlondonmist]

6 minutes ago, MVP RULZ said:

They still do don't they??

Do they? Maybe it's because 6 teams qualify for the CL that the winner has probably already qualified for Europe. 

Edit: Yeah you're right. Last time a winner didn't already qualify for Europe through the league was 2013 with Swansea. 

Edited May 16 by westlondonmist

[SuperBacon]

20 minutes ago, westlondonmist said:

Edit: Yeah you're right. Last time a winner didn't already qualify for Europe through the league was 2013 with Swansea. 

Palace last year.

Edit: apologies, you're talking about the league cup and not the FA Cup. It's been a long old day.

Edited May 16 by SuperBacon
Cups

[westlondonmist]

BBC saying Alonso 4 year deal, surely with Chelsea he'd try and negotiate 7.

[SuperBacon]

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, most managers compensations are now tied to a certain length of time regardless of their contract length.

So take De Zerbi for example, even though he's on a 5 year contract, if he leaves or gets sacked, he "only" gets that years pay  not the whole 5 years if he leaves before that time.

Very common in football now, and of course varies but I'd assume Alonso is the same, as reportedly was Rosenior. He hasn't walked out of Chelsea with 7 years wages for 6 months work.

However this is Chelsea who have players on 1000 year contracts, so probably not.

[westlondonmist]

2 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, most managers compensations are now tied to a certain length of time regardless of their contract length.

So take De Zerbi for example, even though he's on a 5 year contract, if he leaves or gets sacked, he "only" gets that years pay  not the whole 5 years if he leaves before that time.

Very common in football now, and of course varies but I'd assume Alonso is the same, as reportedly was Rosenior. He hasn't walked out of Chelsea with 7 years wages for 6 months work.

However this is Chelsea who have players on 1000 year contracts, so probably not.

I know, it was just a joke. I figured it was like that for a long time anyway, if you can get sacked with 2-3 years left and paid all of it then there's no incentive to actually do a good job. Although I imagine there is clauses such as if you relegate or fail to get Europe you could potentially get less. 

[SuperBacon]

27 minutes ago, westlondonmist said:

I know, it was just a joke. I figured it was like that for a long time anyway, if you can get sacked with 2-3 years left and paid all of it then there's no incentive to actually do a good job. Although I imagine there is clauses such as if you relegate or fail to get Europe you could potentially get less. 

Being a football manager is a fantastic gig isn't it? Constantly rewarded for failure and mediocrity and as its a fairly small pool, you'll always go and get another job. What a racket.

[Carbomb]

2 hours ago, SuperBacon said:

Being a football manager is a fantastic gig isn't it? Constantly rewarded for failure and mediocrity and as its a fairly small pool, you'll always go and get another job. What a racket.

Moneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneyyyy

*shlurp*

 

I remember, some years ago, someone on Twitter totted up how much money Mourinho made in severances from his Destroy & Exits just before he was about to get the sack from Tottenham, and it was something in the realms of £97m from four clubs (including Spurs).

Edited May 17 by Carbomb
Gheorghe Hagi

[TheBurningRed]

3 hours ago, SuperBacon said:

Being a football manager is a fantastic gig isn't it?

Andre Villas-Boas has to be one of the most successful failures due to his payouts from Chelsea and Spurs. I wish I could be shit at my job and get millions in severance pay. 

[SuperBacon]

12 minutes ago, TheBurningRed said:

Andre Villas-Boas has to be one of the most successful failures due to his payouts from Chelsea and Spurs. I wish I could be shit at my job and get millions in severance pay. 

He then went and fulfilled a life long dream of being a rally car driver! What a life.

[air_raid]

11 minutes ago, TheBurningRed said:

Andre Villas-Boas has to be one of the most successful failures due to his payouts from Chelsea and Spurs. I wish I could be shit at my job and get millions in severance pay. 

AVB got Spurs their highest ever Prem points total after Modric and Van der Vaart left and only struggled the season after (thus got sacked) because the DOF spent the Bale money on players he didn’t want. He was far from shit for us.

Anyway, in news from this decade…

 

But… but… but…. that’s not the rule anymore, right?

RIGHT???

[Arch Stanton]

43 minutes ago, air_raid said:

Anyway, in news from this decade…

 

But… but… but…. that’s not the rule anymore, right?

RIGHT???

Who really knows. The refs, the VAR officials and the pundits all seem to have different ideas about how to implement the handball rule from one game to the next. Gary Neville bizarrely just seems to want whichever outcome hurts Manchester United the most. The Premier League Match Centre can't spell Bryan's name right, so they aren't off to a very credible start, but in any case the Premier League's own rules state the following:

It is an offence if a player scores in the opponents’ goal:

Directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper

-Immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental

Mitigating factors

-Goal not immediate

-Goal scored by a teammate

-Ball not entering goal; however action of a defender

So the handball being by Mbeumo, and the goal being scored by teammate Cunha, following a ricochet off a Forest player, might suggest an appropriate decision was actually reached in the end, but if this was the case... Why were VAR studying the handball at all, and what the fuck is the ref on about with the accidental justification? Those are not relevant factors.

Edited May 17 by Arch Stanton

[Wretch]

First I’m seeing of this as Old Trafford don’t have a screen in the ground. Don’t give a fuck tbh.

My main takeaway from the game is that I demolished three (3) chicken balti pies in quick succession at half time. On the way back to Nottingham and it’s a minor miracle I haven’t gassed the rest of the coach out. 

[Tim Healys Chutney Spoon]

Glad Newcastle did us a favour today. Just, effectively, need a point on Tuesday to pretty much guarantee survive and West Ham down. Then again, this is Spurs so it'll no doubt still go down to the final day. 

Be good to get safety all but assured on Tuesday and use Sunday as a farewell/thank you/fuck off session for a whole lot of the first team squad.

[Rossman]

Normally listen to the footie on 5 Live, but the Google Nest was playing up so listened to Man Utd v Forest on TalkSport instead. I use to think Sam Matterface was well regarded, but he just spouts drivel and a totalitarian on the refs decisions. When Casemiro was subbed off, I gave in and turned it off. "He's a great servant to the club" he's on £300k a week! "Not a dry eye in the house" he's had half a good season in 4 years! Rose tinted spectacles indeed.