Paid Members air_raid Posted May 14, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Mr Lawrence said: Didn't someone on here claim to have once smoke cigar with Dustin? You’re thinking of “ate crisps with Gangrel.” My claim to fame is I once shared pints, cigarettes and pork scratchings with TACKA Drake Maverick.
Snitsky's back acne Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 Hade Vansen getting a match vs The Undertaker at WrestleMania.
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted May 21, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 21, 2021 From the SCG WWF 1991 pod last year, when WWF were trying put for Tatanka, they tried Charlie Norris and Steve Gatorwolf as well as Chris Chavis. Not only is Norris terrible but he was called Johnny Greyfeather!! We sure dodged a bullet with Tatanka!
Vegeta Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 When ECW went to sci-fi wasn't there an idea for Hardcore Holly to be a NASA worker? I'm sure Vince wanted Hall to be like a GI Joe before Razor Ramon aswell And Cody as a heel Tony Stark
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 23, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 7:48 PM, tiger_rick said: From the SCG WWF 1991 pod last year, when WWF were trying put for Tatanka, they tried Charlie Norris and Steve Gatorwolf as well as Chris Chavis. Not only is Norris terrible but he was called Johnny Greyfeather!! We sure dodged a bullet with Tatanka! I don't think it was necessarily a terrible idea, but when Tatanka had a mid-00s comeback and a heel turn that went nowhere, the initial plan for heel Tatanka was that he would be a smarmy, leather jacket wearing casino owner.
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted May 23, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, BomberPat said: I don't think it was necessarily a terrible idea, but when Tatanka had a mid-00s comeback and a heel turn that went nowhere, the initial plan for heel Tatanka was that he would be a smarmy, leather jacket wearing casino owner. That would almost have worked as a logical follow on from his time in the Million Dollar Corporation. He invests the money Dibiase gave him and this is how it's paid him back. Heck it could even lead to a "getting back to my roots" style road to redemption storyline where he goes back to his original appearance. Remember when Booker was feuding with the Undertaker and he kept going to see voodoo priestesses and witch doctors with the idea that they were going to repackage him as either a new Papa Shango style character or the gimmick that ended up becoming the Boogeyman?
Chili Posted May 23, 2021 Posted May 23, 2021 This topic title reads like someone bitterly disappointed that Vince Russo wasn't justly punished.
Paid Members unfitfinlay Posted May 24, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 24, 2021 Christopher Daniels as the "Higher Power" behind the Corporate Ministry in 1999 is one of those ideas that's so utterly stupid that I thought it was bollocks until I heard it confirmed on somebody's podcast (Prichard's probably?). It really was Russo's plan. I mean, I love Daniels but putting him in THAT spot would've been fucking ridiculous. It's tough to imagine him even having a competitive match with the Undertaker or Triple H in 1999, much less being their boss and, effectively, being the top heel in the industry.
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 24, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 24, 2021 I wonder if, given that he's a smaller guy, especially by the standards of the WWF at the time, the plan would have been more to use Daniels as a manager? Paul Bearer couldn't really bump any more, whereas having a manager who can take a beating when needed is always more useful. Though I doubt Russo would have put any more thought into long-term than I just did.
rollthedice Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 At the time who was Daniels? If he had been revealed, would anyone in the arena or watching on TV have known who he was? The first time I remember seeing him was about a year later getting battered by Scott Steiner in WCW.
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 25, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 25, 2021 He was an indie stand-out, but that meant nothing at that time. He was doing the Fallen Angel gimmick, and apparently Russo was a fan of that and thought he'd be a good fit, but McMahon saw him work and immediately rejected the idea. For what it's worth, Daniels has said that they never spoke to him about it at the time, and he only heard rumours years later, and that it would have been a terrible idea. From the sounds of it, by his account, he wasn't even really on a developmental deal with them, he'd just been invited to train at the Funkin' Dojo - so it would be the equivalent of people speculating that someone who had a try-out today was going to be involved in a major storyline. Truth is, it's typical Russo/Attitude Era guff - a compelling start to a story, with no idea how they're going to pay it off.
Paid Members mim731 Posted May 25, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 25, 2021 Was Daniels also Vampiro's "master" or higher power? I'm sure I remember seeing a vignette with him in a hood backstage on some sort of throne but Russo/the angle got canned before the reveal.
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 25, 2021 Paid Members Posted May 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, mim731 said: Was Daniels also Vampiro's "master" or higher power? I'm sure I remember seeing a vignette with him in a hood backstage on some sort of throne but Russo/the angle got canned before the reveal. Yeah, he filmed some stuff as "Syndrome", Vampiro's mentor, and it never went anywhere. Russo clearly wanted to get some use out of him.
Factotum Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 I really liked Daniels. The fallen angel gimmick would have been a nice addition to the Ministry around that time. As someone mentioned as a mouthpiece he could have been great
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