The Celebrity Abusers Thread

[deathrey]

I've been involved in many allegations of abuse (via work) and if the victim themselves is not willing to give a statement and press charges, there is little that can be done by police - even when the victim does want to proceed, lack of evidence can still make it impossible.

Only in cases of child protection can statutory authorities proceed without the victims permission but that's limited to social care and would not apply to the police.

Edited 5 hours ago by deathrey

[King Coconut]

See you in the dead thread at 13:00 then, or he's a liar as well a a sex pest.

[deathrey]

5 minutes ago, Ironic Indie Lad said:

THE MYSTERY CELEBRITY has apparently missed the deadline to appeal the decision to block them being named. Seemingly this expires at 12:30 today so could be all sorts of stuff coming out in the next few hours if I have understood this correctly (a huge if)

 

It expired at midnight I thought, I was expecting it splashed all over the papers today.... Maybe we'll have to wait till the morning.

[SuperBacon]

Britain...Britain...Britain...

[Chili]

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/ng-interactive/2026/nov/10/david-walliams-accused-sex-grooming-allegations-young-women

Can I shock you... Turns out it's actually David Walliams! Full doc that aired tonight is up on YouTube.

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Chili

[westlondonmist]

Maybe ignorance, but I really didn't expect it to involve kids. 

Kind of surprised BBC haven't taken down his movies, can't be difficult to do.

[WyattSheepMask]

And another ones gone and another ones gone…

Edited 3 hours ago by WyattSheepMask

[deathrey]

This is in no way an allegation to be absolutely clear, it's just an observation but Jonathan Ross keeps some very suspect company 

 

[poetofthedeed]

9 minutes ago, deathrey said:

This is in no way an allegation to be absolutely clear, it's just an observation but Jonathan Ross keeps some very suspect company 

 

I saw someone on Twitter write a completely unprompted glowing tribute to him yesterday and my mind immediately went "wrong'un"

[gmoney]

9 minutes ago, deathrey said:

This is in no way an allegation to be absolutely clear, it's just an observation but Jonathan Ross keeps some very suspect company 

 

That's true, but I will say he basically knew and hung out with everybody in UK comedy from the late 80s onwards, the good and the bad. He gave TV breaks to everyone in the UK alternative comedy scene at the time, kept his toe in the scene and is by accounts a pretty friendly and generous guy. That isn't to disagree with your observation, but he hung around with the Fast Show gang, Adam and Joe, Vic and Bob etc just as much as the likes of Walliams and Brand. 

[deathrey]

Thank you for putting it in context @gmoney. I do quite like Jonathan Ross so it's nice to have that framing around it.

[wordsfromlee]

Ross also met his wife when she was 16 and married her when she turned 18 and he was 28. 
 

[Chris B]

21 hours ago, Chest Rockwell said:

Why doesn't that make sense? Makes complete sense to me.. what am I missing?

There's also the question about what prison is actually for. Is it about punishment or about rehabilitation? We've talked about this a little in the death penalty thread, but a jail system that isn't centred around rehabilitation is a societally depressing idea. 

I think the ideas talked about above on the concurrent/part of same pattern points are what tie in here - you're removing someone from society with the goal of them being able to eventually return. Adding the sentences on top of each other feels more satisfying, I agree. But if the judgement includes severity and the pattern already, then I think that makes some sense.

That said, I'm in favour of generally longer sentences, especially around sexual assault. I just think the work on rehabilitation should also be done and we should do better work around re-integration afterwards.

[RedTwoster]

Walliams seems to have shot himself in the foot with this, in that attempting to block the publication has let other outlets prepare dozens of ready-to-go articles about his conduct while the legal case was ongoing. They've managed to dig up all sorts of things that they simply wouldn't have been able to had he not done this, and as a result there's an absolute flood of stories all being released at once. And that's very much deserved, that final attempt to silence the women and girls involved must have caused a level of added trauma and anxiety for every one of them.

Edited 1 hour ago by RedTwoster

[Ironic Indie Lad]

He's been dropped by Labour Party, dropped by his Agent, BBC are in the process of removing his content from streaming...