Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted July 26, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 26, 2019 Jones is one of the few fighters they have that is a legit draw (not Conor or GSP level, but definitely a needle mover), so he'll get a certain level of grace from Dana. Simply, Jones is always going to make a mess of things and show he's a terrible person; it's him being himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Combat sports are a bit of an outlier when it comes to ethics largely because the audience is taking enjoyment in watching people try to harm each other - if someone like Jones commits an actual crime in real life, you have pretty much an equal split of people who don't care, those who tut and post on forums like this while still watching him fight, and others who will watch the show in the hope he gets battered. It's always a win/win for people like Jones as long as, like David says, he doesn't actually go to prison. All these incidents only add to his intrigue and marketability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 5:14 PM, David said: the truth is somewhere in the middle I’m sure I hate people who trot that line out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted July 29, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 29, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 5:14 PM, David said: There's very little chance that the UFC would ever release Jones from his contract. You know Dana, you know how he works. Do you think he honestly gives a shit about Jones groping a stripper in a strip club? Come on man, you know that he doesn't care. Did you see his comments when he was asked about it? “Listen, there’s two sides to every story and the truth is somewhere in the middle I’m sure, so I don’t know." Before he then went on to say he's numb to whatever Jones does these days, that it doesn't faze him. There was no condemnation, no mention of the girl who made the accusation, nothing. He gives not a single, solitary fuck. That's absolutely fair, but I was under the impression that Dana, in real terms, was no longer the final authority in the UFC following the WME takeover. If he retains that level of power, then definitely your point is a given. On 7/26/2019 at 5:14 PM, David said: My mention of Bellator isn't to say that he'd make more money over there (although he might), it was to point out that he'd make top coin regardless. If the UFC suddenly developed morals and decided to terminate Jones contract for the strip club incident do you think Bellator wouldn't pick him up? Of course they would, Coker would be all over that. Oh, I never thought for one minute Bellator wouldn't pick him up. I was just wondering if it was possible for them to offer him more than the UFC does, not just in fighter pay but in allowing for sponsorships etc. From what I remember reading on here, it seemed like the Reebok deal was designed to keep the top fighters happy at the expense of the jobbers and midcarders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Carbomb said: That's absolutely fair, but I was under the impression that Dana, in real terms, was no longer the final authority in the UFC following the WME takeover. If he retains that level of power, then definitely your point is a given. I'm fairly certain that Dana is still responsible for a lot of what the UFC does, especially when it comes to fighter relations. The only real way the UFC drop Jones is if his antics become harmful to the UFC brand, and I don't see that being the case. 4 hours ago, Carbomb said: Oh, I never thought for one minute Bellator wouldn't pick him up. I was just wondering if it was possible for them to offer him more than the UFC does, not just in fighter pay but in allowing for sponsorships etc. From what I remember reading on here, it seemed like the Reebok deal was designed to keep the top fighters happy at the expense of the jobbers and midcarders. I honestly think it depends. Jones had a fairly lucrative deal with Nike before, didn't he? I can imagine that he was being paid more for that than he was in the Reebok deal. Throw in the other, smaller sponsors and he may just make more money through advertising outside the UFC than he would in it. How his money is affected by PPV point and UFC pay compared to Bellator is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 You can be a generational athlete but there's not much that can be done if you've got a pea for a brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just been mentioned in the other news thread. He clearly needs help, and the UFC should really be making sure that he gets it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted March 26, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted March 26, 2020 It was going pretty good as well the last year or so. There’d been zero controversy or issues with him since about 2018. And he’d been more active in the cage as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Details for those who can't be arsed reading the full article: Quote UFC superstar Jon Jones was arrested for DWI and a gun charge in New Mexico Thursday morning, TMZ Sports has confirmed. Cops say they responded to reports of gunfire in Albuquerque at around 1 AM -- and when they arrived at the scene, they found Jones inside a 2019 Jeep with the engine running and the car in park. Jon denied firing a gun -- but officers say he appeared intoxicated (bloodshot, watery eyes and reeked of booze) and conducted a field sobriety test, which he allegedly bombed. He also took a breathalyzer, twice, and registered over the legal limit both times. During a subsequent search of the vehicle, cops say they found a black handgun and a half-empty bottle of tequila behind the passenger seat. He was arrested and booked for aggravated driving while intoxicated, negligent use of a deadly weapon and possession of an open container. And his mugshot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted March 26, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted March 26, 2020 Delightful. I was worried he was turning into a right boring git. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members seph Posted March 26, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Outside of fights he purely only trends for pissing hot or doing reckless life-endangering shit. Edited March 26, 2020 by seph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators neil Posted March 26, 2020 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2020 I've been to Albuquerque. I can see why he was firing guns and drunk driving tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 They could have taken him straight from that sobriety test to an arena and he'd likely have still crushed DC in an MMA fight. Guy is a disaster outside the cage for sure. Makes you wonder what he would have accomplished if he'd given half a fuck about what he was doing really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Bifkin Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Handled like a grizzled veteran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Although, in all seriousness, I have heard numerous reports that the police out there in Albuquerque do have a hard-on for him. Nothing like a successful, "uppity" black athlete to get the cops into a frenzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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