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1 hour ago, Winston said:

Watched the newest episode of Untold about the Triple H / Mick Foley feud from 99/00 and thought it was really good.

I genuinely could not remember that bump Foley took through the top of the cage and through the ring.

Yeah, good watch. Another one of those things that reminds you that wrestling is totally worth it at its best. 

Untold has slowly turned from short, simple little bits and pieces into a full blown documentary series. 

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Edge's WWE 24 is probably the best Network content ever. It's surely impossible to sit through it and not see the wonderful side of this silly business.   

RVD is a hell of a lot more iconic to the people who watched wrestling when it mattered than the vast majority of stars they've attempted to create in years since. 

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Been watching some of the WWE PPV's from 2004 and recently watched Backlash, which was from Canada and featured the Wrestlemania rematch between Triple H, Shawn Michaels and Chris Benoit.

Throughout the show, Jerry Lawler is indicating that Benoit is a flash in the pan and has no chance in the rematch. Benoit's wife, Nancy is in the crowd and during the main even event Benoit is being slapped around in the corner by Triple H and Lawler remarks "I wonder if Benoit's wife has ever seen him choke before?"...

With the amount of edit's in the Network classic content, I am surprised that remark has remained.

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On 5/4/2020 at 2:52 PM, Gay as FOOK said:

Yeah, good watch. Another one of those things that reminds you that wrestling is totally worth it at its best. 

Untold has slowly turned from short, simple little bits and pieces into a full blown documentary series. 

I love the little details, like Steph saying it was the first time H had properly kissed her, during his rumble entrance. Same with how he got the nasty leg injury, which I'd never really noticed either. 

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On 5/4/2020 at 12:58 PM, Winston said:

Watched the newest episode of Untold about the Triple H / Mick Foley feud from 99/00 and thought it was really good.

I genuinely could not remember that bump Foley took through the top of the cage and through the ring.

Great show, speaking of the bump through the cell, Triple H speaks about Foley lighting the bat as being the perfect ‚Äúdistraction‚ÄĚ before the backdrop.

Got me thinking, the panel concerned must have been ‚Äúgimmicked‚ÄĚ, isn‚Äôt that a bit of a risk, what if either of them had lost their bearings up there and stood on that panel?

Either that or whilst the camera was on Foley, Triple H took out a toolbox, a brew and some sandwiches and did some bolt snipping the crafty bugger.

 

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That Hell In a Cell is probably a little underappreciated. It's second fiddle to everything. The cell match with Undertaker, The Rumble match with Triple H and Foley's own stipulation breaking, dull return for WrestleMania the next month. It's really well put together and tells a fantastic story. As a kid I had No Way Out on tape but not King of the Ring so I convinced myself it was the better match. It's nowhere near the same earnest spectacle, granted, but there's something to be said for how much it gets better in terms of looking dangerous without posting multiple mortal risks to Mick's life. It's a professional job. 

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3 hours ago, Project Nim said:

Great show, speaking of the bump through the cell, Triple H speaks about Foley lighting the bat as being the perfect ‚Äúdistraction‚ÄĚ before the backdrop.

Got me thinking, the panel concerned must have been ‚Äúgimmicked‚ÄĚ, isn‚Äôt that a bit of a risk, what if either of them had lost their bearings up there and stood on that panel?

Either that or whilst the camera was on Foley, Triple H took out a toolbox, a brew and some sandwiches and did some bolt snipping the crafty bugger.

I caught that comment too, so I watched HHH while Foley did his bit, you can see him tearing at the mesh on the roof on the Cell while everyone's going "ooh fire!"

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I thought that comment meant he was distracting the fans from the ring techs rearranging the ring boards so the bump could go ahead as planned. Surely there were a couple guys under the ring moving stuff around once the cell got busted and they went out. The cell panel itself could easily have been held together with zip ties as there would have been no weight on it until Foley hit it on his bump. 

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I thought he just meant it was a distraction of focus like a misdirection so no one could possibly telegraph the cell bump spot because they thought something would happen with the fire. In any case I don't think HHH was up there tearing the cell open with his bare hands.

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I watched the 2018 Dean Ambrose Chronicle documentary and I was surprised by how bleak it was.

Dean is going through the events around the end of his time with WWE and spends the whole thing grumpy and confused spouting half formed deep thoughts about how shit and painful life is.

Normally these comeback profiles are inspirational stories but I loved this one for being so diffetent in tone, it's the most downbeat thing they've done that wasn't about someone dead.

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9 hours ago, Bellenda Carlisle said:

I watched the 2018 Dean Ambrose Chronicle documentary and I was surprised by how bleak it was.

Dean is going through the events around the end of his time with WWE and spends the whole thing grumpy and confused spouting half formed deep thoughts about how shit and painful life is.

Normally these comeback profiles are inspirational stories but I loved this one for being so diffetent in tone, it's the most downbeat thing they've done that wasn't about someone dead.

Yeah I remember how utterly miserable it was. Talk about writing on the wall. He came across as somebody who'd find it very hard to let his guard down at that time, and who was probably heavily persuaded to let the crew follow him. 

Along similar lines, the 24 they done on Goldberg two or three years back wasn't too aww, wrestling's lovely. He just came off as a proper joyless professional. Jittery about his bit, paranoid about it looking right and constantly moping to the camera about how he wasn't really enjoying things with the pressure on. I love Bill, but Bill works better without a behind the scenes. 

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9 hours ago, Bellenda Carlisle said:

I watched the 2018 Dean Ambrose Chronicle documentary and I was surprised by how bleak it was.

Dean is going through the events around the end of his time with WWE and spends the whole thing grumpy and confused spouting half formed deep thoughts about how shit and painful life is.

Normally these comeback profiles are inspirational stories but I loved this one for being so diffetent in tone, it's the most downbeat thing they've done that wasn't about someone dead.

Thought the Ambrose chronical was really good, its almost a worked shoot scenario in best way possible.

The character and real life guy feel the same frustrations, you can see when he returns he's no b.s. and has a chip which leads to turn.

Art imitating life or vice versa.

Moxley needs to get back to that size, he looked the part, now he's gone a bit 2017 ambrose.

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On 5/12/2020 at 4:27 PM, Gay as FOOK said:

Along similar lines, the 24 they done on Goldberg two or three years back wasn't too aww, wrestling's lovely. He just came off as a proper joyless professional. Jittery about his bit, paranoid about it looking right and constantly moping to the camera about how he wasn't really enjoying things with the pressure on. I love Bill, but Bill works better without a behind the scenes. 

I hated the Goldberg one. Put me right off him, the miserable twat. Being paid millions to do the bare minimum and moaning constantly about the pressure. Like before his match he was so stressed...he only had to do two fucking moves in it. Additionally he never stops going on about how he wants his son to see him wrestle and be the hero and the whole time his son seems completely uninterested. Even when his Dad wins he doesn't look like he gives a shit.

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