The Health and Fitness Thread

[Sergio Mendacious]

That's absolutely blinding, nice work. I'm on a GLP-1 and I can't budge the weight, so very proud/jealous of you.

[SuperBacon]

31 minutes ago, FLips said:

I’ll make sure to post some side-on pics at some point.

Stay away from those Johnny cakes!

[Wretch]

Top work that, @FLips

I don't think I've posted about this, but here goes.

In January last year, I topped the scales at a quite frankly disgusting 23st 3lbs. Out of desperation, and in part due to a GLP-1 thread I'd been following on another forum, I decided to get my arse on the Mounjaro. It turned out to be one of the best things I'd ever do. By the time November rolled around, I was down to 17st 9lbs, so a loss of 5st 7lbs in ten months. A slightly lesser fat cunt I was, but at my lowest weight in well over a decade, I was absolutely delighted. Aside from the physical benefits, I couldn't believe how much my mental health improved. It was astounding. 

At the tail end of last year, the price of Mounjaro went up by something daft like 140%, so I could no longer afford it. Not that it was cheap prior to the price hike, but I couldn't justify spending over £300 pm on the stuff, so I was forced off. This coincided with Christmas, and no longer having my appetite suppressed, I went wild over the holidays, putting a chunk of weight back on. 

As I type, I'm a couple of stone heavier than when I came off it - BUT - I'm a few stone lighter than when I started jabbing, so I'll take that as a win. I gave myself a day of debauchery with Frankie in Liverpool a few Saturdays ago, and promised myself I'd get back dieting the following day and so far, I've stuck to my word. Still a long way to go, but I'm starting to feel better about myself as I watch the lbs melt away again. I got myself an exercise bike recently that I'm going to try and use a few days a week, so fingers crossed this'll help me stay on the right track. 

[LaGoosh]

18 hours ago, FLips said:

I’ll make sure to post some side-on pics at some point.

Before....and way before!

[deathrey]

First day back at the gym today after the Easter holidays. I most definitely did not want to get out of bed this morning but pushed myself and I'm glad I went. It's amazing how much more motivated I am for work when I go to the gym on the morning (thank you ADHD), I logged on early and I've got quite a lot done even though it's only a few minutes past 9.

[Dai]

47 minutes ago, Ralphy said:

Brilliant work, try not to put too much pressure on yourself, 1pb a week (52lbs/3 stone 7) in a year) is a good target,

 

This is the definition of putting pressure on yourself, and should definitely not be recommended. Defining an amount to lose in an arbitrary period of time is never the way to do it. There just isnt a need to give yourself such small deadlines that would have the potential to discourage you consistently. Losing 1lb a week is a ridiculous amount, too, and should not be recommended for a consistent period of time. 

 

If what youre doing is making you feel better, and is something that isnt making you miserable and can be done consistently, then thats the only thing that really matters. At some point you may get the visual clues that you are losing weight (clothes fitting a bit more loosely, etc), and thats all you really need. 

[deathrey]

I stopped weighing myself a long time ago, I've found it's really helped with my motivation as I'm not demotivated when I see the scale hasn't moved. I am in the privileged position that I'm not actually overweight, just unhappy with how I look/feel, but seeing progress through looking in the mirror and seeing muscle definition and my clothes fitting better has been much better motivation than the scales ever were.

As a reward for getting out of bed this morning when I really didn't want to, I treated my self to a proper coffee from the gym instead of the weak or decaf stuff I usually have at home. ADHD'ers are often caffeine sensitive and I think I may be buzzing off my tits right now. My meeting at 10.30 is going to be FUN.

[gmoney]

I on the other hand, if I'm dieting weigh myself obsessively, a few times a day. It's absolutely not the way to go about it, but I can't help it. I will say it doesn't discourage me really if the weight hasn't changed, or gone up, I'm more just fascinated by how much weight fluctuates throughout the day. I don't recommend anyone else does it, but I can't not. 

[westlondonmist]

1 hour ago, Dai said:

 

This is the definition of putting pressure on yourself, and should definitely not be recommended. Defining an amount to lose in an arbitrary period of time is never the way to do it. There just isnt a need to give yourself such small deadlines that would have the potential to discourage you consistently. Losing 1lb a week is a ridiculous amount, too, and should not be recommended for a consistent period of time. 

 

If what youre doing is making you feel better, and is something that isnt making you miserable and can be done consistently, then thats the only thing that really matters. At some point you may get the visual clues that you are losing weight (clothes fitting a bit more loosely, etc), and thats all you really need. 

I don't think having a target is unhealthy, I do think you should aim smaller though. I would say 5kg, but not set a time frame. Things happen, you may have a birthday, an anniversary or a wedding to go to, and they have food and/or drink. Also you will plateau eventually. I would say the below are key things to not get unhealthy about it.

• Initial weight loss will be rapid as you burn carb/glycogen stores and your body adapts. It's great you're losing, but it will not be as rapid soon and that's not a bad thing.
• When the above stops and you plateau, don't panic. If your staying the same weight, you're not putting weight on so still a asuccess right.
• Don't go to heavy on the calorie cutting and exercise initially. It's not really sustainable and will lead to your body adapting quickly. So maybe start with a calorie deficit of 200 per day. After 6 weeks you either cut further or add an extra 30 mins of activity a week.
• Do exercise you enjoy, some people say X machine is crap and you'd be better on Y Machine or this will lose more calories etc. Who gives a fuck, do what you enjoy. You pick a video from some cunt like Jeff Cavaliere or Greg Doucett says, I guarentee what they say in one video is instantly shot down in another video by the same person. Also amazing how a 1000 different people have a best way to lose weight technique. 
• Find a diet you enjoy, no point if going on a diet you don't like to lose weight quick if you won't carry on with the healthy eating after. Better to lose weight slowly and something you can stick too. So if you had two take aways a week, cut it to 1 so you still have that food to enjoy and something to look forward to. Have 5 drinks a week? Well you can have 4, maybe cut to 3 at some point but not right away and see if you're okay with that. 

Edited April 16 by westlondonmist

[Joe Blog]

20 hours ago, westlondonmist said:

Find a diet you enjoy, no point if going on a diet you don't like to lose weight quick if you won't carry on with the healthy eating after. Better to lose weight slowly and something you can stick too. So if you had two take aways a week, cut it to 1 so you still have that food to enjoy and something to look forward to. Have 5 drinks a week? Well you can have 4, maybe cut to 3 at some point but not right away and see if you're okay with that. 

Alternatively move away from the idea of a ‘diet’ as it adds additional pressure. Rather just eat healthy/well and still allow yourself ‘treat’ food within moderation. 

[NeverYield]

Yes eat clean most of the time, make good choices, and now and again have something you enjoy 

Well I say now and again I pretty much have a "cheat" meal every weekend and have maintained a decent physique, performance in the gym & at work.

Its not sustainable to cut out all food you enjoy, but i will say the problem lies in turning a cheat meal into a cheat weekend.

My mate is an example of this, eats really clean through the week and then friday to sunday it goes to pot, I mean fair play to him he is a scaffolder and does go to the gym but it does hold him back a bit for the goals he wants to attain.

Doesnt matter if you want 4 double cheeseburgers and 3 large fries, eat it, and get straight back on the clean wagon. 

 

[westlondonmist]

2 hours ago, Joe Blog said:

Alternatively move away from the idea of a ‘diet’ as it adds additional pressure. Rather just eat healthy/well and still allow yourself ‘treat’ food within moderation. 

Yeah the word diet has negative conotations and also if you go back to normal after 3 months you will likely just put it all back on (speaking from experience). I wouldn't follow meal plans either. I have tried Slimming World and Weight Watchers and they were a bit shit and actually quite easy to cheat your weight into loads of calories by abusing the points system. Someone I know who goes to Slimming World meetings said that they can be mean if you turn up, weigh yourself and you've put on weight. 

As @deathrey put it, weighing is quite arbritary anyway and can just make you feel bad, if your clothes fit better and you weigh the same, what does the weight really matter that much? Also weight can differ up to about 2kg day to day depending on what you ate that day, water intake and when you weighed yourself. When losing weight you could potentially be losing muscle or bone density (a doctor told me it's almost impossible to lose weight and not lose some muscle with it), which is bad or if you've gained weight it could be a growth in those two. 

I've actually tolerated by recent weight gain as my legs look more defined and chest has gone from major boobage to some boobage. I did need to cut out the chocolately biscuit snacks though. I'd say that's the only thing I've really changed about how I eat. I was probably spending a tenner  or more a week on snacks too. 

Edited April 17 by westlondonmist

[King Coconut]

43 minutes ago, westlondonmist said:

Also weight can differ up to about 2kg day to day depending on what you ate that day, water intake and when you weighed yourself.

How can you have missed having a poo on that list? 

[gmoney]

Nothing better than weighing yourself before and after a big clear out. For science. 

[westlondonmist]

1 hour ago, gmoney said:

Nothing better than weighing yourself before and after a big clear out. For science. 

Definitely done it on more than one occasion