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To be fair to Undisputed Era they were all just as great before they arrived in NXT, the only thing "massively improved" about them is their ability to work WWE style. That's not to say that there's no room for improvement of course (and I'm sure they'll continue to improve) but I think too often people are quick to associate not being adept at the WWE way of doing things and there being a time of adjustment with simply being shit or lacking before they came to WWE.

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Like BomberPat said earlier, I really couldn't give a shit about what Matt Riddle did in MMA and I don't really give that much of a shit what he did on the indies either. My first impression was that he was a dopey, barefoot wanker with an annoying gimmick who beat someone with a pretty crappy looking knee strike or whatever the fuck that thing was. First impressions really do last and mine was that next time I see him on the wrestling, I'm turning it off. Bro.

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Another excellent Takeover event. Great stuff throughout.

I’m fascinated by the spectrum of reactions to Riddle, but not at all surprised. I definitely think he’s a guy where context matters. If you’re seeing him blind I totally understand why you’d think he was an annoying berk.

Having followed his career since the Ultimate Fighter though, I love the guy. I met him in London back when he was fighting in the UFC and he was the nicest guy ever, with all the time in the world for each and every fan. Every description of him wrestling on the Indies backs this up, too. It always made me laugh how all he ever wanted to talk about during MMA interviews was pro-wrestling. Between him and Shayna, it’s really cool to see these super fans transition from MMA to their real passion and succeed so impressively.

Who would have ever thought, with all the talent on this show, that Dakota Kai would impress me most with her fire. That run-in was really great.

Gargano/Black and Dream/Ciampa were both fantastic. Whilst I would’ve never turned him in a million years, Gargano showed some good chops as a heel. Came across as a right little prick and I was happy when his head was kicked off. I completely bought The Dream’s final few nearfalls. It’s going to be a really amazing moment when he wins the belt. He’s truly the best thing their developmental has created from scratch.

War Games was great but there were definitely moments where it dragged. If anything, I left that match hoping we get to see them have a straight 8-man tag without the stunts or weapons because the best part of the match was the final five minute sprint where they just did finishers and clever spots. Still, Pete Dunne and Ricochet are the future of this business and Undisputed Era are a main roster invasion angle just waiting to happen.

One thing I thought was interesting was that they supposedly experimented with light-up wristbands similar to the, “Xylobands,” that Coldplay use at their gigs, yet it was barely noticeable all night. 

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I saw the above photo on Twitter just before Takeover began, so was super excited to see how they were used. For reference, this is what they look like at Coldplay concerts:

What a fucking shame that the only time I even noticed it was during the ring announcement of Velveteen Dream and it looked proper rubbish. Hopefully they give it another go though because I reckon they could do some really cool stuff with that technology. Imagine incorporating them into Wrestlemania entrances. Set them all off just as Nakamura does his Matrix pose. Awesome.

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Those flashy, colourful wristbands look lost at a dull Coldplay concert, hence why they had to use generic electronic dance music in that promo video. Imagine raving to fucking Sound Of Speed. Urgh.

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Only seen Riddle twice on the indies. He won me over in that Ohno confrontation on NXT tv this week. Just look at the fucker’s face. Look at him trying not to corpse at Hero’s nonsense, the way his eyes light up when he calls him ‘dude’. He’s hilarious. Mind you, I tend to watch wrestling totally baked, man.

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On 11/18/2018 at 5:14 PM, air_raid said:

Bell to bell he's great and I hope wrestling him shames Ohno into taking care of himself. He wasn't slim when he went back but the fact he's become fatter still is ridiculous.

-6 stars, Dave.

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12 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

Like BomberPat said earlier, I really couldn't give a shit about what Matt Riddle did in MMA and I don't really give that much of a shit what he did on the indies either. My first impression was that he was a dopey, barefoot wanker with an annoying gimmick who beat someone with a pretty crappy looking knee strike or whatever the fuck that thing was. First impressions really do last and mine was that next time I see him on the wrestling, I'm turning it off. Bro.

I'm right, it's gonna be WWE's treatment of RVD all over again. 

On the indies, the stuff like wrestling barefoot and saying 'Bro' and being known as the King Of The Bros, it came off as really natural as that's who the guy is. It wasn't focused on as it's just part of the package. He's a laidback dude who's a bit weird and eccentric, yet tough as fuck, hard as nails and up for a big scrap. He's cool as ice, smiling and laughing during his entrance and bobbing along Warren G's Regulate. Then when the bell rings he's all business and gets pissed off very easily. 

Cue the NXT version; BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO HEY THIS GUY HAS BARE FEET LOOK BRO BRO HE'S SO WEIRD BRO BRO BRO BRO WOW HAHA 420 FOR LIFE BRO SLIDERS HOW COOL IS THAT BRO BRO BRO LOOK NO BOOTS LOOK BRO!

He's been diluted to all fuck.

 

 

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Really enjoyed Takeover. Title match got to agree with everyone else in that it was fantastic, when Dream hit the elbow i thought that was it. Rematch has to be on the cards and give Velveteen a rumble spot.

Wargames match itself was too long i felt. The crowd pop though when they did the lineup in the centre was as loud as i've heard in a long time. A straight 8 man would be great and the tease of Dunne looking at Ricochet's belt at the end was a good touch. 

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So was at the tapings last night.

No Lars for obvious reasons, but also no Dream. Make of that what you will.

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Taping spoiler

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 Lovely little main event this week, just two big guys smashing each other and by far the most I’ve enjoyed Keith Lee in NXT. 

Highlight of the episode was Marcel Barthel’s music. Wonderful.

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Odd episode this week.

I was immediately impressed by Punishment Martinez - tall, good look, menacing way of moving about him. And then they job him out to Bro Von Erich in under 5 minutes.  That's a very strange way of debuting a new potential star.

Good match between Dakota Kai and Shayna Baszler - but then we've seen it before, and Kai's lost like 3 times straight to her, so I'm not sure how the match benefits anyone.

Forgotten Sons are utter shite, well Blake and Cutter are anyway. They are both marginally out of shape and have no chemistry.  Ryker I'm intrigued by and he's got that great stare, but you can see why they took so long to get onto the tv show.  Their opponents, the Mexicools, don't seem like a long-term proposition either.

The rest of the show was talking around the main event scene.  Black is not a good talker.  When he was smashing his way to the ring to confront people, he looks great, they should stick with that.

I guess the WWE off-season malaise even affects NXT!

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I felt the opposite on almost everything there @Loki, with the exception of the Forgotten Sons who I’d already forgotten had been on.

Riddle grows on me each time I see him, week by week I’m becoming a fan. I can see him in the RVD role on the main roster. Punishment Martinez didn’t impress me very much at all, reminded me of NXT era Baron Corbin if I’m honest.

I thought Kai-Baszler was great, it played on and called back to their previous matches really well. I love how much I hate Baszler, everything she does in her matches just looks nasty.

I enjoyed the closing segment too, I’m interested in what happens to all three of the guys, I don’t mind Black’s talking at all (though I agree him smashing people in a rage is much better) and I like the idea of Ciampa pulling Gargano’s strings so that even Johnny’s heel turn wasn’t his own choice, it was just what Ciampa had driven him to.

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Ciampa was absolute gold in that segment. Such a weasel trying to get out of the Championship match with Black, all the while smirking while Gargano falls for the oldest trick in the book. It still amazes me how Black throws the Black Mass kick with sheer precision that it makes the kick look absolutely devastating. 

Riddle gets better each week for me. That 'chop' to Martinez' chest while he was running towards him sounded tremendous. 

Ohno's hair is terrible. Like a returning HBK in 2002, minus the brown undies and charisma. 

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Of all the people who needed the old fashioned name change treatment, Punishment Martinez was it.

Even if they went with Luis 'Punishment' Martinez it'd be way better.

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