Paid Members herbie747 Posted October 28, 2014 Paid Members Posted October 28, 2014 Did you go out your way to find a shit picture to prove your point? That pics atleast 10years old, this is a more current one That's where I am in his book - he's talking about the Enemy video, and that was the wardrobe they wore in the video. Apologies. Quote
The Cutting Edge Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Nah thats fair enough, some people search out the worst pics of stuff to prove a point but thats not the case here. Quote
Paid Members herbie747 Posted October 28, 2014 Paid Members Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Although saying that, most wrestling fans seem to have no interest in them either. It's only the obsessive Jericho fans that are into Fozzy, and even only half of them -- the other half are the "stop screwing around with your dumb band, come back and save the world title scene" type. So their fanbase must come from somewhere else too...? No idea - I was asking out of genuine interest - I don't know enough about them. But I keep looking up stuff on YouTube as he refers to it in his book and they're just generic, middle of the road, glammy rock with clichéd lyrics. So I'm genuinely curious if they have any actual fans who don't know him from wrestling. Playing festivals is moot, because crowds swell at festivals all day depending on time of day, who's up next, who's on in other tents at the same time, etc. Edited October 28, 2014 by herbie747 Quote
King Pitcos Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Personally, I've never seen anyone ever be excited about a Fozzy concert without the "OMG got meet & greet tickets for Jericho gonna get him to sign my Y2J shirt!" factor. But even that seems so rare that I just assume they've got fans from elsewhere somehow. I just googled for any music forum discussions about them, but couldn't really find anything within a few minutes. It probably is just wrestling fans that like them. Quote
Moderators PowerButchi Posted November 3, 2014 Moderators Posted November 3, 2014 Did you go out your way to find a shit picture to prove your point? That pics atleast 10years old, this is a more current one That's still pretty fuckin' terrible. Jericho looks like Bon Jovi or something and the one on the left just looks a normal fella. Quote
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted November 3, 2014 Paid Members Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) They're a comedy band with no sense awareness. They'd probably be more likable if they embraced the humour, but Jericho seems to think they are these credible artists. Instead of a Stars in Your Eyes version of Skid Row. The whole thing about that music is to achieve commercial success and pretend you dont have it to retain your credibility. Fozzy does the opposite. They pretend they have commercial success when in fact they just hook themselves onto festivals and mini tours because Jericho pays Barry Bloom loads of money to make him a d-lister. Like everything Jericho does, it lives or dies because he's a wrestler. Fuck all to do with his hacky bullshit act. Edited November 3, 2014 by IANdrewDiceClay Quote
Paid Members herbie747 Posted November 4, 2014 Paid Members Posted November 4, 2014 They're a comedy band with no sense awareness. They'd probably be more likable if they embraced the humour, but Jericho seems to think they are these credible artists. Instead of a Stars in Your Eyes version of Skid Row. The whole thing about that music is to achieve commercial success and pretend you dont have it to retain your credibility. Fozzy does the opposite. They pretend they have commercial success when in fact they just hook themselves onto festivals and mini tours because Jericho pays Barry Bloom loads of money to make him a d-lister. Like everything Jericho does, it lives or dies because he's a wrestler. Fuck all to do with his hacky bullshit act. Fully agree - well summarised. Just finished his book, and he really lacks self awareness of how good his band actually is. They're bloody terrible. Quote
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted November 4, 2014 Paid Members Posted November 4, 2014 Fozzy are a decent enought live act, they are entertaining. I've always been interested in them because Rich Ward & Frank Fonsere used to play in Stuck Mojo. Ward's a cracking guitar player, he's a much better singer than Jericho too. Quote
Paid Members herbie747 Posted November 4, 2014 Paid Members Posted November 4, 2014 Ward's a cracking guitar player He really isn't. IMO. Quote
scotty_1120 Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 After reading his third book Jericho is starting to become the new Mick Foley to me in the sense that he has a greatly over inflated opinion of himself. How he sees his surprise return at the royal rumble as a fantastic moment is laughable. He seems to have to convince himself of what he's writing and doesn't grasp the law of diminishing returns. Quote
Paid Members herbie747 Posted November 5, 2014 Paid Members Posted November 5, 2014 After reading his third book Jericho is starting to become the new Mick Foley to me in the sense that he has a greatly over inflated opinion of himself. How he sees his surprise return at the royal rumble as a fantastic moment is laughable. He seems to have to convince himself of what he's writing and doesn't grasp the law of diminishing returns. I enjoy his books more than anyone else's from an entertainment POV. But Jericho is someone I always liked until I got to know him more over the last few years. Between his Podcast, Twitter, and his latest book, I've come to realise he's just an egocentric knob. As far as wrestling goes, I was always a fan - I did consider him a headliner & top guy, but only when in a program with another top guy. He's botched so many spots in top matches over the years (slipping off the ropes, etc), I just never consider him to be at the elite level. Was always a fan though. Quote
WyattSheepMask Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Haven't got round to his third book yet, but yes his band are what they are, and that's a band of a never-will-be rockstar in Rich Ward fronted by a pro wrestler. They will never be a credible band as long as they keep putting 'featuring WWE Superstar Chris Jericho' on everything they do. As for his audience numbers, that's just typical wrestler exaggeration. I assume the Download appearance he is referring to is 2012 when they played the second stage, which can not accommodate 30,000 spectators, so he's clearly just talking Brutus Beefcake levels of shit rather than admit that his band is a novelty Edited November 5, 2014 by WyattSheepMask Quote
Donedude Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 After reading his third book Jericho is starting to become the new Mick Foley to me in the sense that he has a greatly over inflated opinion of himself. How he sees his surprise return at the royal rumble as a fantastic moment is laughable. He seems to have to convince himself of what he's writing and doesn't grasp the law of diminishing returns. I enjoy his books more than anyone else's from an entertainment POV. But Jericho is someone I always liked until I got to know him more over the last few years. Between his Podcast, Twitter, and his latest book, I've come to realise he's just an egocentric knob. As far as wrestling goes, I was always a fan - I did consider him a headliner & top guy, but only when in a program with another top guy. He's botched so many spots in top matches over the years (slipping off the ropes, etc), I just never consider him to be at the elite level. Was always a fan though. Was a fan until I read his last book I agree with the egocentric knob analysis. After reading his third book Jericho is starting to become the new Mick Foley to me in the sense that he has a greatly over inflated opinion of himself. How he sees his surprise return at the royal rumble as a fantastic moment is laughable. He seems to have to convince himself of what he's writing and doesn't grasp the law of diminishing returns. I enjoy his books more than anyone else's from an entertainment POV. But Jericho is someone I always liked until I got to know him more over the last few years. Between his Podcast, Twitter, and his latest book, I've come to realise he's just an egocentric knob. As far as wrestling goes, I was always a fan - I did consider him a headliner & top guy, but only when in a program with another top guy. He's botched so many spots in top matches over the years (slipping off the ropes, etc), I just never consider him to be at the elite level. Was always a fan though. Was a fan until I read his last book I agree with the egocentric knob analysis. Quote
zep81 Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 I have pre ordered - Death of Wcw, The : 10th Anniversary of the Bestselling Classic - Revised and Expanded. Never read the original. Quote
The Dart Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 On the subject of books, I was just wondering around Liverpool today and stumbled upon a Chris Jericho book signing I didn't know was taking place. Sadly by the time I got there they weren't letting anyone else join the que, and his book was sold out. Really could have done with that book for the train journey home tomorrow! Is it even out yet officially here? No other shops have it. Quote
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