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There's a big Avengers sale over at Comixology. Any recommendations? Weirdly I've read very little Avengers compared to Justice League and don't have the foggiest which are their stand out storys.

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I've just signed up for Marvel Unlimited, but I don't know how to find any comics on there that I won't think are shite. I just started reading Infinity (2013) #1 on there and what a big turd it is. I've no interest in the contunuity porn that seems to make up the majority of the catalogue, where you have to know and care about the backstory of 5000 characters to enjoy the story. So I suppose really I'm after standalone stuff that doesn't tie into the Mega Cross-title Retcon Events. Nothing that, in graphic novel form, would say "originally published as Iron Man #7-10, Avengers #63-64 and Captan America Vol 9 #2-6."

Stuff that you could treat like starting a new series on Netflix, rather than starting to watch Eastenders and having to ask your nan who everyone is. Or rather, stuff that you could treat like the first Guardians of the Galaxy film rather than Avengers Endgame.

I think my favourite Marvel comics ever are the Garth Ennis Marvel Knights Punisher stuff (before the Max Punisher just involved Ennis having big wanks over army stuff), and Thor: Vikings. I quite liked Ultimate Spider-Man for a bit as well, but lost track of it. 

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The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl from 2015, it's the only Marvel comic I've read in recent years but it's its own thing with the initial 8 issues especially being apart from everything else.

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The Vision (2015) by Tom King is a 12 issue standalone series which I can't recommend highly enough.

The Unbelievable Gwenpool (2016) is a bit longer but can be enjoyed in isolation and is far better than it had any right to be given its LOL-Deadpool-origins. 

I'm struggling to think of anything too Garth Ennis-y that I've read but if you've got any time for Warren Ellis, he did a 6 issue standalone series called Karnak, which I really enjoyed and which I don't think needs any prior knowledge going in. 

EDIT: The original run of Exiles from 2001 might be worth a go. It's like a Marvel Comics version of the old Sliders tv series with a team of heroes hopping dimensions and having no impact or interaction with the main continuity. As a result it's quite free and easy with offing characters left, right and centre. 

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Thanks, guys. I'm fine with something being a long run, just not with it needing a million issues of foreknowledge. Gonna give all of the above a go!

Are the Ultimate series' all standalone (or at least in their own universe away from the non-Ultimate series)/any good?

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2 hours ago, King Pitcos said:

Stuff that you could treat like starting a new series on Netflix, rather than starting to watch Eastenders and having to ask your nan who everyone is. Or rather, stuff that you could treat like the first Guardians of the Galaxy film rather than Avengers Endgame.

Considering this is what almost everyone wants from comics it's ridiculous how inaccessible it can be even for pretty experienced readers. I read nearly the entire new 52 but a couple of years later I'd struggle to know what to do with any DC comic currently out.

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If it were me I'd go with one of the big events but use Marvel Universe preferred reading list and read them in order. For instance I hadn't read Marvel since I was kid and couple of years ago I read Civil War on MU all 100+ issues and it didn't matter that I hadn't the foggiest about previous continuity as it was all building the story at hand. I mean I'm sure there was some stuff but it would only be small flippant things. Certainly didn't affect the narrative. It also gave me a bit of background on nearly every Marvel character. Where as a kid I was a Spiderman guy with a working knowledge of X-Men.

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15 hours ago, King Pitcos said:

Are the Ultimate series' all standalone (or at least in their own universe away from the non-Ultimate series)/any good?

I haven't read many others, but I can say I think The Ultimates (the Ultimate universe version of the Avengers) is shite. I'm all for storylines where they de-construct superheroes to show how they can be flawed human beings, but it's another thing to make them so bad they might as well be villains.

It's written by Mark Millar, though, which explains it all. Aside from Red Sun, and the first couple of volumes of The Authority, I can't say I've ever enjoyed anything he's written.

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Picked up the latest League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, thinking it was the last ever, turns out there's one more to come, so this issue very much felt like everything building to a big climax. I have no idea how they can end this story satisfactorily, but I'm looking forward to it.

More importantly, there's a panel stuffed with Viz cameos.

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1 hour ago, BomberPat said:

Picked up the latest League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, thinking it was the last ever, turns out there's one more to come, so this issue very much felt like everything building to a big climax. I have no idea how they can end this story satisfactorily, but I'm looking forward to it.

More importantly, there's a panel stuffed with Viz cameos.

Is it still drawn by Kevin O"Neill? Love that mad bastard.

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6 minutes ago, Bellenda Carlisle said:

Is it still drawn by Kevin O"Neill? Love that mad bastard.

It is indeed. Allegedly it's both Moore and O'Neill's final comic book.

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Their last book together or are they having a suicide pact or something?

You probably already know this but I love Kev O'Neill and I don't get to talk about him much; His art was viewed as offensive by the comics code authority not because of any specific content but just because his style is so grotesque it was deemed unsuitable for children. 

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14 minutes ago, Bellenda Carlisle said:

Their last book together or are they having a suicide pact or something?

You probably already know this but I love Kev O'Neill and I don't get to talk about him much; His art was viewed as offensive by the comics code authority not because of any specific content but just because his style is so grotesque it was deemed unsuitable for children. 

Have you seen the new Image comic Little Bird? I think you'd dig Ian Bertram's art in it. I find myself going over each panel multiple times looking for things as it's so well done.

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1 hour ago, Bellenda Carlisle said:

Their last book together or are they having a suicide pact or something?

Their last comic full stop, as far as I'm aware - Alan Moore is retiring from comics, planning to focus on films (and presumably impenetrable over-long novels), and Top Shelf have said Kevin will be retiring as well, so I assume that he will finish up after this series too.

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