The Gaffer Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 (edited) I'd say if you haven't shaken off your previous employer in two years it might be a you thing. Shades of Spinal Tap going "They were still booing him when we came on stage!". It's that hands down the face dance that gets me. Everything else about the presentation I think I could handle if she could somehow stop herself from reverting to it every 2-4 seconds during her entrances. She's clearly got the talent and AEW clearly have the booking nous to turn it around. If she sticks around I imagine she'll come through it and be far better off for it. Edited October 18 by The Gaffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 18 Paid Members Share Posted October 18 1 hour ago, LaGoosh said: For sure, The Elite looking on as a group of real baddies is dead set on destroying their meal ticket and looking conflicted as to what to do was very interesting. Jack Perry is different from the Bucks/Okada who are more comedic smug guys here to fuck around and get big paychecks - Perry is a genuinely nasty and vicious little cunt. Perry eventually joining the BCC and The Elite being pulled into the big fight as babyfaces with a returning Kenny Omega in the mix would be where I would take the story. The fantasy booking I pitched on my blog was that Moxley runs through everyone currently standing up to him, and The Elite basically sit it out; they can be kept busy with a returning Kenny Omega, Adam Copeland, and whatever other feuds they see fit, so it's not just that they're sat twiddling their thumbs, but have it occasionally brought up that there's a fight for the soul and the future of AEW going on and they're not getting involved. Once Moxley is basically unbeatable, set up a match between the BCC and a de facto "Team AEW" of babyfaces. But the face team are short one man. They realise that they need someone just as violent and unhinged as Moxley, and that Hangman Page is the only man for the job. But, even though it could get him a shot at the World Title (maybe there's a stipulation that if anyone pins Mox they get a shot, something like that), and the World Title is what started his descent into madness, Page turns them down. He's too far gone, and just sees AEW coming to him for help when they were never there for him when he needed them. But then he has a realisation of what he could get out of this - he agrees to join the team, but only if Swerve Strickland personally confesses that he needs his help. Hangman is instrumental in winning that match, but doesn't get the win himself, it's him working as part of a team that helps give the BCC their first significant loss in this story. That starts to dawn on Page - that's what he's needed, he's always been happier and more successful when he has friends, when he's part of a group, not when he's off on his own fighting his own increasingly petty battles. It doesn't happen overnight, but gradually he warms to being more of a babyface again. Meanwhile, Kenny Omega is feuding with The Elite, and at Revolution, he needs a tag team partner to take on the Young Bucks. Hangman Page steps up, and they cautiously reunite their team, for a Bucks/Hangman & Omega rematch five years after it first took place. That's a match all about "restoring the feeling" and reminding people what we love about AEW, so (potentially) have Moxley drop the title on the same show - probably to Darby Allin, just based on the direction of the story to date - to tie everything up and make for a big feel-good show. The Bucks then turn babyface, reform the classic version of The Elite, and feud with the BCC - who most likely poach Jack Perry away from them, while Okada can stay heel on his own terms.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Duke Posted October 18 Paid Members Share Posted October 18 I'm really not sure where this whole idea moving Jack Perry to the BCC thing is coming from. Do not see that at all. Try all that scapegoat crap with Moxley and he's likely to crucify you and drag you from the pack of the pickup truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 18 Paid Members Share Posted October 18 (edited) I'm not wedded to the idea of him moving to the BCC, but he needs a change-up, and he's a better fit there than he is for The Elite. Moxley also called him a "good kid" in a promo at some point during this run. If The Elite end up turning face, I'd want Jack Perry out of the picture. But his gimmick also just doesn't work as intended anyway. How is he a "Scapegoat" when he's protected by the company's bosses and allowed to get away with murder? He's whatever the opposite of a Scapegoat is. It also doesn't help when, at Wrestledream, he walked out with a scowl on his face and a leather jacket on, staring out fans, and just looked like a poor imitation of Hangman Page doing the same thing much better in a previous match.  Perry to BCC would be a lateral move anyway; he'd still be a supporting player in a heel group, just a different one. He's better off either on his own, or reuniting with Killswitch as a heel Jurassic Express against a reunited Edge & Christian. Edited October 18 by BomberPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted October 18 Paid Members Share Posted October 18 2 minutes ago, BomberPat said: opposite of a Scapegoat Imprisoned Goat, Bad Ass Billy Goat, Top Dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted October 18 Author Share Posted October 18 16 minutes ago, BomberPat said: I'm not wedded to the idea of him moving to the BCC, but he needs a change-up, and he's a better fit there than he is for The Elite. Moxley also called him a "good kid" in a promo at some point during this run. If The Elite end up turning face, I'd want Jack Perry out of the picture. But his gimmick also just doesn't work as intended anyway. How is he a "Scapegoat" when he's protected by the company's bosses and allowed to get away with murder? He's whatever the opposite of a Scapegoat is. It also doesn't help when, at Wrestledream, he walked out with a scowl on his face and a leather jacket on, staring out fans, and just looked like a poor imitation of Hangman Page doing the same thing much better in a previous match. He was TK's scapegoat specifically, so it does make sense, but the more they move away from that power battle - and there's not really been masses of development in that story - the less it probably makes sense as a gimmick. Unless TK gets more involved on the Team AEW side vs BCC AND The Elite or if it's like a three way power struggle. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 The Don Callis Family seemingly targeting tag titles could also be a way of slowly pushing The Bucks face again. Theres a lot of moving parts involved which has for me at least created a lot of unpredictability, which I'm a big fan of. Also pretty funny that The Elite power struggle died on it's arse while Mox has already pulled it off with ease. It's basically true at this point that when things go to shit, just put the strap on Mox. No idea how long he is out for but just imagine the pop if Eddie Kingston returns to fight for AEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 The Young Bucks appeared on NJPW via video message to confirm their participation for the big Tokyo Dome show on Jan 5th earlier this week. Hilariously to zero reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 I think Jack Perry's gimmick makes a lot of sense, the whole point that he's a little shit with a chip on his shoulder thinking he's the scapegoat despite totally being the EVP's bessie mate. The contradiction makes him even more of a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted October 18 Paid Members Share Posted October 18 2 hours ago, TildeGuy~! said: The Young Bucks appeared on NJPW via video message to confirm their participation for the big Tokyo Dome show on Jan 5th earlier this week. Hilariously to zero reaction. Are you unfamiliar with Japanese crowds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted October 18 Paid Members Share Posted October 18 4 hours ago, TildeGuy~! said: The Young Bucks appeared on NJPW via video message to confirm their participation for the big Tokyo Dome show on Jan 5th earlier this week. Hilariously to zero reaction. They should be used to it by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted October 20 Paid Members Share Posted October 20 (edited) I thought the best thing about this week’s show was Nigel McGuinness at the desk. I like Taz, and I used to really enjoy his dynamic with Tony and Excalibur, but somewhere along the way they completely jumped the shark. They became borderline insufferable, especially during the ad breaks. Replacing Taz with Nigel has completely freshened it up. He was a hoot all night long. Far wittier and cleverer than Taz. He’s easily commentator of the year. Other main highlight was Shelton. Genuinely the best performance of Shelton Benjamin’s entire career. I’ve never been a Shelton guy. Felt like he’s been dining out on supposed potential for twenty years. He looked boss here though. This run, with loads of tiny guys to chuck about, could be the making of him. Bring in Bobby Lashley and make them the freakishly athletic giant Tag Team, smashing everyone up. Between those two and then Brian Cage and Lance Archer, I haven’t been this excited by AEW’s Tag division in ages. Speaking of which; another Outrunners sighting on Dynamite! With another monster pop! Yes! I’ve got so much time for the Youngest Men Alive. FTR turning heel on them feels like the best direction. Smash up their VHS collection. Loads of hard selling on this show, pushing future shows and announcing matches way more in advance. Promising. Less promising was Chris Jericho doing more, “LOL dead relative,” stuff. Fuck all the way off, Chris. Remember when AEW was far too good for this type of shit? I’m sure I’ve said this before when other people have took some time away, but you hope Chris will take inspiration from Mox. Had become a complete afterthought and chore to watch, fucked off for a few months, came back fresh and is now the best thing on the show. Mox’s opening promo was fantastic. Loved how it was shot, with the ominous score over it. This, from during the beatdown, was classic AEW as well. Funny, throwaway moment that I must have watched about a thousand times. I loved everything the Combat Club did on this show, and got genuine chills when they announced nobody could get a hold of Darby. Yes, Darby! Get in those rafters! Become the new Sting! Redo that Sting/nWo angle, only with a proper, climactic conclusion without bullshit politics. I dunno, though. As much as I’m enjoying Motivated Mox, and there’s a clear effort to give guys like Dark Order and Private Party a new, earnest push, I think I’m just sick of AEW itself being such a pivotal part of the show. Seems every fucker is fighting for the soul of AEW, for the betterment of AEW, to reclaim the power of AEW or bring back the glory days of AEW. Even Adam Cole was banging on about how he needed to beat MJF to save AEW for all the young talent or whatever. It was everywhere on this show and it feels like it’s already been going on forever. I’m begging for a different storyline. Fight over some belts. Fight over some personal issues. Fight Moxley and his horrible mates because they murdered Bryan Danielson. For now though, a very positive show. I’m excited about loads of stuff. Guys who’ve been criminally under-used finally feel like they have directions again. Months of saying you’re restoring the feeling, when all you actually needed to go was get John Silver back on my screen. This shot, with the funny Quote Tweet afterwards, could’ve been from Peak Pandemic AEW. Top stuff.  Edited October 20 by Supremo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 I had no idea Shelton Benjamin was 49 and two months younger than ALEX WRIGHT. Yes, I know they have a lot on the roster, but come on, get that techno library music in and a big burlap bag of euros for a Das Wunderkind comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Six pound Chris. He's the only AEW figure they had in the store, there were at least 10 of him just sitting there reduced. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JLM Posted October 22 Paid Members Share Posted October 22 The Seis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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