Vamp Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Also, I now really want to see Punk on Strictly. Imagine Punk standing there as Craig told him how shit he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted October 29, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Keith Houchen said: To calm the situation, Sniff could offer him his favourite recreational pursuit. “Anton, Do Beak” They could pair him up with Flavia Gakacce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Healys Chutney Spoon Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Vamp said: Also, I now really want to see Punk on Strictly. Imagine Punk standing there as Craig told him how shit he was. Or Anne Widdecombe in AEW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I'd rather Claudia Winkelman. She'd be great on a wrestling show. And Karen Hauer would be fierce as a wrestler. Wasted in AEW obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jesse Posted October 29, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, David said: ... On second thought I find the discussion tedious and I regret contributing to it. Edited October 29, 2022 by Jesse whatever the opposite of l'esprit d'escalier is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Why is hangman’s name being Steve a reason he can’t be hard? And hasn’t any hard man in history had a decent job before or where they crunching rocks with Their teeth before finding fighting? Grrrr!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Not saying I necessarily believe Punk, but even if he was a double-hard bastard who could batter anyone on the roster, I don't see why he couldn't still be concerned by the prospect (real or imagined) of a match being ruined by his opponent deciding to go off-script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted October 29, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Big'Olympic_Hero'Pete said: Or Anne Widdecombe in AEW... Anne "Elite" Widdecombe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Vegas Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, David said: Yeah, but we need to remember who we're talking about here. If it was an old-school proper tough guy then fair enough, but the discussion was centred around Punk supposedly being afraid of a former high school teacher called Steve who plays a cowboy on telly "shooting" on him. The scenario you've described is EXACTLY what Punk was terrified of and actually a reason to believe that version of the story not to doubt it. As you said yourself, if it was an old-school proper tough guy (who shot on him and made him look stupid & he could do nothing to stop them) then the perception is that's understandable as they're a credible hard bastard who took advantage of him off guard. A large part of Punk's entire paranoia/insecurity/delusion centers around wanting people to believe he had an ounce of legigimate professional fighting ability and hard man credentials about him, despite knowing with every ounce of his being, that isn't the case. If a former high school teacher called Steve who plays a cowboy on TV decided to shoot on UFC veteran and skilled martial artist CM Punk...he knows himself that he couldn't do a thing to have prevented himself from looking like an absolute wally. I used to work with a guy who was similar. Always talking about MMA and his training and stories of all the street fights he had been in around the world. He was absolutely desperate for everyone to think of him as a credible threat and it ate him alive to know deep down that every single of us were laughing at him. One day he was mouthing off as usual about how much harder he was than everyone else and a 5ft 6, mid 40's, unassuming former driving instructor named Colin called him out. The guy backed down completely, stopped speaking to absolutely everyone at work, said he was sick of all of us and our attitudes, began looking for a new job immediately and left at the first opportunity as he knew Colin would have changed us from all thinking he was a deluded little weirdo to knowing he was. Edited October 30, 2022 by Jonny Vegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted October 30, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 30, 2022 10 hours ago, David said: Dude banked half a mill for just over 2 minutes work and a broken nose. And still cried in the press conference afterwards. ...maybe Punk just needs to stop doing press conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, LaGoosh said: ...maybe Punk just needs to stop Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted October 30, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 30, 2022 I re-watched some of All Out tonight. Jon Moxley’s pre-match promo is fascinating in retrospect. ”You should take the time and really enjoy CM Punk whilst he’s here. Because he’s not going to be here much longer. Fragile mind. Fragile ego. Fragile body.” Bret levels of always being right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 10:43 PM, Louch said: Why is hangman’s name being Steve a reason he can’t be hard? And hasn’t any hard man in history had a decent job before or where they crunching rocks with Their teeth before finding fighting? Grrrr!!! But Steve never found fighting, did he? He found wrestling. On 10/30/2022 at 1:00 AM, Jonny Vegas said: The scenario you've described is EXACTLY what Punk was terrified of and actually a reason to believe that version of the story not to doubt it. As you said yourself, if it was an old-school proper tough guy (who shot on him and made him look stupid & he could do nothing to stop them) then the perception is that's understandable as they're a credible hard bastard who took advantage of him off guard. A large part of Punk's entire paranoia/insecurity/delusion centers around wanting people to believe he had an ounce of legigimate professional fighting ability and hard man credentials about him, despite knowing with every ounce of his being, that isn't the case. If a former high school teacher called Steve who plays a cowboy on TV decided to shoot on UFC veteran and skilled martial artist CM Punk...he knows himself that he couldn't do a thing to have prevented himself from looking like an absolute wally. I used to work with a guy who was similar. Always talking about MMA and his training and stories of all the street fights he had been in around the world. He was absolutely desperate for everyone to think of him as a credible threat and it ate him alive to know deep down that every single of us were laughing at him. One day he was mouthing off as usual about how much harder he was than everyone else and a 5ft 6, mid 40's, unassuming former driving instructor named Colin called him out. The guy backed down completely, stopped speaking to absolutely everyone at work, said he was sick of all of us and our attitudes, began looking for a new job immediately and left at the first opportunity as he knew Colin would have changed us from all thinking he was a deluded little weirdo to knowing he was. Again, you're confusing being "a hard man" with knowing how to fight. Punk isn't a hard man. He's a whiny, sensitive moaning-faced twat for the most part. You say if Steve decided to shoot on Punk there isn't a thing he could have done about it? Why do you think that? He spent years having people who knew what they were doing shooting in on him daily pretty much. If graphic design teacher Mr Woltz, someone with zero background in actual combat training, had tried to shoot on Punk there's a good chance Punk would have easily defended himself and restrained Steve until he calmed the fuck down and realised he wasn't a real cowboy. You think Steve would have known the first thing to do in a real fight? Based on what, exactly? I really doubt Punk would have hurt him, anyway. In my experience, most guys who train in MMA tend not to be the type who intentionally try to hurt people just because they can. That kind of thing is left for the two-can Dan's who pretend they train MMA and tell tall tales about how hard they are. Like the bloke you used to work with. The difference is that we know Punk does have an actual MMA training background. Granted, he's not a UFC calibre athlete, but very few people are. That doesn't mean he can't handle himself if faced by someone with far less real combat experience and training, which is basically most of the AEW locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Nick James Posted October 31, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 31, 2022 This thread is 2 or 3 posts away from arguing about whether Punks Dad is harder than Hangmans Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted October 31, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted October 31, 2022 That raises an interesting question: is Page one of those hard men without combat training? (He probably isn't, given the lack of rumour. Usually something comes out about this sort of thing.) And would a hard man without training beat a soft guy with training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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