AVM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) I'd guess it'd be possible for Matt Richards to stay back then you have someone fill in for Jon Briley but yeah it's probably going to have to move (which has happened before). I do question how long it'll be before Progress shuts its doors (at least in its current guise). I mean WWE even seem to be signing up folk from the newest generation coming through - Pretty Deadly, Dani Luna, Candyfloss. You just need them to get OJMO and Cara Noir and you're pretty much at the point where you either get lent talent regularly (guaranteed) or you downgrade regular chapter venues. Comparatively, Rev Pro seem to have a really sweet deal with NJPW and ROH. I do prefer the storytelling style of Progress but I do think we're reaching the point where it's basically Riptide in a bigger venue. Edited February 17, 2020 by AVM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 17, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted February 17, 2020 Have Progress even done that much "storytelling" lately? I'm out of the loop, but everyone I know that still attends their shows complains that the story side of it has been atrocious to non-existent for a while now. It's fairly common knowledge that WWE have a buy-out clause with Progress, and I think Progress' top brass have naively assumed that if and when WWE take advantage of that, they'll be kept on-board as part of the machine. It'll be a rude awakening for them when WWE does away with Progress and sacks them off too. Honestly, I thought Progress would likely finish up at Chapter 100, and I'm surprised they're still going as a sort of NXT UK feeder group. It's so short-sighted of WWE to be signing up really young talent like Candyfloss et al, because they generally recognise the importance of letting wrestlers find their feet elsewhere, and develop through working a variety of styles and promotions. I think it makes it clear that the majority of the very young wrestlers they're signing for the UK brand, they have no hopes of ever actually making stars, they just want them off the market. What's always very telling is when the kids of WWE's own producers, talent scouts etc. start wrestling, you don't often see them signed up to WWE while they're still inexperienced - Dave Finlay Jr isn't at the Performance Centre, Regal's kid isn't being pulled from bookings to stand around in a branded tracksuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted February 17, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted February 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, AVM said: but I do think we're reaching the point where it's basically Riptide in a bigger venue. I think that is doing Riptide a disservice, some of their long term storytelling over the past few years has been superb, and Progress would be lucky to be doing such good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, mim731 said: I think that is doing Riptide a disservice, some of their long term storytelling over the past few years has been superb, and Progress would be lucky to be doing such good work. The storytelling is alright TBF, Riptide is a solid entertaining promotion, it was more the name power of Progress' bookings now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzero Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Some of my fellow countrymen are complaining on twitter about having a nxt UK takeover in Dublin and it being classed as the uk what aload of nonsense I'm a Irish man and I'm proud about WWE doing TV over here we have waited for years for a TV taping in Dublin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Progress have moved their show to Monday April 20th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, WyattSheepMask said: Progress have moved their show to Monday April 20th Maybe they should change their name to CUK PW, unless it’s already taken.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted February 19, 2020 7pm on a Monday is a bonkers time for a wrestling show. Curious how well that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted February 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: Maybe they should change their name to CUK PW, unless it’s already taken.... Compliant UK Pro Wrestling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted February 19, 2020 I know they haven't really got a choice, but the promoters pulling a "sorry lads, we've got something on. Mind if we reschedule?" probably isn't the best well to sell tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dart Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, BomberPat said: 7pm on a Monday is a bonkers time for a wrestling show. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Dart said: Why? Long answer - because someone finishing work at 5-6pm is going to struggle to get to the venue for 7pm bell-time, even if we assume that person already lives in central London, rather than (as many people do for PROGRESS) travelling from out of town. Most people would want to fit in getting something to eat, or changing out of their work clothes, rather than rushing straight from work to the venue. Assuming the show starts on time (which is a big If), you're looking at a 10pm finish. Factor in trains/transport home, again especially for out-of-towners, it's a late one for a Monday night. Say maybe you live in Plymouth (to pick a UK city at random) and fancy going to London for the wrestling. Except to get the train there in time, you'd probably have to set off mid-afternoon, so you're taking a half day to a day off work. And then the last train back is probably around 9pm, so you're either missing half the show, or staying overnight - so that's either an extremely early start the next day, or taking another day off.  Short answer - for the same reason you don't see anyone else organising events on a Monday night. (I do admittedly obsess over travel times etc. for this kind of thing, because that's my experience of events) Edited February 19, 2020 by BomberPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Monday night football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: Monday night football? A fair point. I tend to think in comparison to live music, club nights etc., and not being a football fan at all, hadn't really considered it as a frame of reference. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP RULZ Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Â 1 hour ago, BomberPat said: 7pm on a Monday is a bonkers time for a wrestling show. Curious how well that does. You're right Wrestling on a Monday Night will never work. Someone should of told Vince that 27 years ago, could have saved him all this effort over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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