SuperBacon Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, KingofSports said: I watched it in its entirety. Biden got fucking mauled. It's a win/win situation. Either way, you're gonna get a prick. Great fun watching America behave like a 3rd World country. November should be truly excellent. Gonna get me some chlorinated chicken to celebrate. You do you I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted September 30, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) The weirdest thing about the USA is their constant terror of anything resembling socialism. It's got to the point now where even the most simple basic improvements the government could make to improve people's lives and it's immediately shouted down as far left radical liberal socialism that'll destroy America and their "freedoms". It's all they ever seem to talk about. A German newspaper article said that "Donald Trump has been elected as President" is basically the first line of the epilogue of America and it's hard to disagree. Edited September 30, 2020 by LaGoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted September 30, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted September 30, 2020 I really feel with the political attitudes in America, and the lack of gun controls, whoever wins we're going to see full blown riots. I should be concerned, but frankly, it will end up with America looking like the world seen in Demolition Man. We know Taco Bell will survive after winning the fast food war, so other then the three seashells, bring it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted September 30, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted September 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I really feel with the political attitudes in America, and the lack of gun controls, whoever wins we're going to see full blown riots. I should be concerned, but frankly, it will end up with America looking like the world seen in Demolition Man. We know Taco Bell will survive after winning the fast food war, so other then the three seashells, bring it on. Yeah, but sex will just be something in our minds and won't involve any physical contact. So, for some of us things will remain reassuringly consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted September 30, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nostalgia Nonce said: Yeah, but sex will just be something in our minds and won't involve any physical contact. So, for some of us things will remain reassuringly consistent. It's my 11th Wedding Anniversary next month. So I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJones233 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Biden isn't winning. Even if he had a shot, he's too old. Get ready for 4 more years of The Don. I wish America the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted September 30, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted September 30, 2020 Biden is only a couple of years older than Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Rob Lowe Posted September 30, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted September 30, 2020 Trump was trailing slightly in the polls pre-debate and really needed a big win, but he didn't get it. His base (who will vote for him anyway) probably thought he was being alpha, but everyone else saw how annoying, tiresome and obnoxious he was. Biden didn't completely shit the bed either, slapped him back a few times but missed quite a few openings too. He didn't keel over, that's a win Jack! I was disappointed Biden didn't have a better strategy dealing with Trump (no easy feat), he was just as obnoxious in the Hillary debates, they've had years to prepare. I think its too late to change the debate rules to allow muted mics, but they absolutely should. I expect the other debates to go the same with extra Trump whinging, if he's crying about the Fox News moderator, he'll be going mental at a left leaning channel. Trump is so predictable and thin skinned too. I hope Biden is saving some big blows for the later debates, its so easy to frazzle him. I think Biden will win in the end. As someone said earlier I think Trump will declare himself the winner early and cry rigged once the full postal results come in. If its close he will cling on like grim death and will absolutely encourage fights (saying "stand by" to the Proud Boys was mental), if its a clear Biden win then Republicans wont have their useful idiot anymore and will drop him like a sack of shit. He'll spend the rest of his life screech tweeting at both parties. Even if Trump loses, the US then has to look forward to the new ultra conservative Supreme Court Justice helping to kill the ACA and making abortion illegal. Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, Rob Lowe said: I think its too late to change the debate rules to allow muted mics, but they absolutely should. Nothing official yet, but there's hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blog Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) I am torn somewhat, for the last four years my father in law has been obsessed with Trump and despises the fucker, he must mention him at least five times a day and will tell you the same stories about him all the time. If Trump loses he will be a pain in relation to his over the top celebrating. If Trump wins he will continue with his obsession and spend another four years being wound up by Trump. I really can't decide what I would prefer. In short the future of America for me depends entirely on how miserable I want to see my father in law. EDIT - can't upload the pictures of me pretending Trump was tweeting about my father in law which he fully believed and told his wife like it was a badge of honour. Edited October 1, 2020 by Joe Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 1, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted October 1, 2020 15 hours ago, scratchdj said: In the last decade, society has been bombarded with so much “news”, information and wrong doing via instant sources like social media and 24 news, I honestly believe that as a race we’re learning that we just can’t compute and cope with that level/rate of fresh information. When the bar of scandal has been set so high by the likes of Trump, Savile etc, nothing is capable of shocking a society to the point that it becomes a catalyst for much to change. There's a lot to this, from a psychological perspective in terms of just not being able to process that amount of information. From a more business perspective, I still don't think news agencies have fully adapted to 24 hour news cycles, and what we've seen is a rush to be the first to say something, rather than to have the best explanation/interpretation, which - alongside myriad other issues - has led to a serious dumbing down of people's understanding of politics and current events. And social media is just toxic, and ruining politics and public discourse - I'm hopeful that there will eventually be some kind of legislation that will dial back the scale of Facebook and Twitter's influence, and that in the future we might look back and see Donald Trump as "The Twitter President"...but to be honest, it probably won't happen, will it? In terms of just the repeated scandal from Trump, someone wrote about how the worst excesses of Nazi Germany were "allowed" to happen, and it rings true with Trump, and makes me dread a second term. They didn't start with the worst thing, they started small and built incrementally. And if you can stomach the first thing, then the second thing might be worse, but it's not that much worse...and so on all the way up to the tenth thing, which isn't that much worse than the ninth. But if they'd gone straight from one to ten, they wouldn't have got away with it. The public burn-out and apathy is part of the plan. 12 hours ago, LaGoosh said: The weirdest thing about the USA is their constant terror of anything resembling socialism. It's got to the point now where even the most simple basic improvements the government could make to improve people's lives and it's immediately shouted down as far left radical liberal socialism that'll destroy America and their "freedoms". It's all they ever seem to talk about. This is one of so many aspects of American politics being imported into the UK lately - Boris Johnson talking about Brits as being uniquely "freedom loving", and right-wingers screaming about their "rights" while wanting to demolish the actual bill of human rights. The idea that "freedom" is somehow uniquely American, or uniquely British, is insane. Thing is, if you actually look at the Human Freedom Index, the UK and US ranked at 14 and 15 respectively last year. 14 countries rank higher than the US in the human freedom category, 24 higher in personal freedom, and 4 in economic freedom. But the average right wing American commentator can't seem to elaborate on what they actually mean by "freedom". It seems to come down to having a choice of different products at the supermarket, and owning guns. There's a significant number of people in America who seem to think that the most significant thing the Nazis ever did was enforce gun control laws (which they didn't even do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanLynn Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I'd argue that it's not only the gatling gun of information, but also the disparity between scandal and consequence. Every time there's been clear evidence of wrongdoing, abuse of power, or outright law breaking, you expect the systems in place to kick in. But no. Nothing. Somehow they get brushed aside, ignored, or nullified. It's Russo booking in real life; when the obvious stops happening for no reason other than to swerve the audience or stick to The Plan, soon nobody cares anymore. There's also the dichotomy of both Trump's and Johnson's characters, in that both are presented as blustering idiots, yet, to have manipulated so many people so well for so long, they MUST be highly, highly intelligent. Either that or whoever is pulling their strings is, which is even more terrifying. There might be no NWO plan afoot, but the way things are is certainly the intention of someone in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 1, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, CavemanLynn said: There's also the dichotomy of both Trump's and Johnson's characters, in that both are presented as blustering idiots, yet, to have manipulated so many people so well for so long, they MUST be highly, highly intelligent. Either that or whoever is pulling their strings is, which is even more terrifying. There might be no NWO plan afoot, but the way things are is certainly the intention of someone in power. I think we've mistaken brazen corruption and privilege for intelligence, to be honest. I spent years thinking that Johnson was a master manipulator hiding behind the character of a buffoon, but every available bit of evidence suggests that he's extremely lazy, and just not that bright. He's been allowed to fail upwards for his entire career, because money and the right connections are a tremendous insulator against consequence. Trump is exactly the same, only historically running with dodgier characters than Johnson - and I at least believe Johnson has some genuine political ideology, while Trump is purely motivated by self interest and petty spite. In terms of pulling the strings - yeah, there's the likes of Steve Bannon and all kinds of dark money influences that it's right to be concerned by, but the majority of the people "pulling the strings" aren't powerbrokers with grand schemes, they're major corporations and media magnates wanting to make money, with no ideology or vision beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted October 1, 2020 Awards Moderator Share Posted October 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, CavemanLynn said: Either that or whoever is pulling their strings is, which is even more terrifying. The only upside to the current world political situation is if it turned out to be Vince McMahon behind it all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 1, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said: The only upside to the current world political situation is if it turned out to be Vince McMahon behind it all along. honestly, I briefly went full conspiracy nutter on this. For all that Donald Trump is constantly on Twitter, he only actually follows 50 people. If you remove from that list members of his own administration, members of his own family, and various Trump-branded products, you're left with a couple of golfers, a handful of Fox News personalities, and Vince McMahon. Now, we know Linda was in his cabinet, Vince is one of his chosen "business experts", and there are photos of the McMahon family all smiling politely in the Oval Office. But what if it goes deeper than that? Vince restarted the XFL conveniently around the time that Trump had made the NFL a culture war hot topic by criticising Colin Kaepernick. That may have been savvy opportunism by McMahon, but what if it wasn't? What if Vince had already been preparing a relaunch of the XFL, and sent a DM to his old mate Donald, asking him to apply pressure to the NFL, in order to make his alternative more viable? Admittedly that's as far as I got. Edited October 1, 2020 by BomberPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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