Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, Accident Prone said: I love Ted, and not even the association with fucking Glinner can ruin it. The same applies to Black Books, but thankfully he wasn't really involved during series two and three (which is where the show really found it's identity and flow, weirdly enough). he was barely involved with series one, either, if I remember correctly. Was basically brought in because Dylan Moran had no experience of writing sitcoms, so they wanted Linehan to help shape it for TV, but he turned out to be largely unnecessary. I sometimes wonder what his contributions to anything were - Arthur Mathews definitely seems to have the better hit rate in terms of stuff he verifiably actually wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 It's Ireland's biggest lingerie section, I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted May 11, 2022 Awards Moderator Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 hour ago, air_raid said: It's Ireland's biggest lingerie section, I understand. Still say this whenever we're in the shops and have to walk through the underwear section to get to anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 I haven't watched it since Linehan (stop calling him Glinner!) went full terf and I'm not sure I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Accident Prone said: Also, fun fact: If you search "Father Ted Cosplay" on Google Images, I am always in the top three results. Number 2 image for me! "You're just the second best cos player....second best....second best" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factotum Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, BomberPat said: I sometimes wonder what his contributions to anything were - Arthur Mathews definitely seems to have the better hit rate in terms of stuff he verifiably actually wrote. Him being a prick doesn't change that he had a large part in why Father Ted was great. Both have credited each other for what they brought to it. The IT Crowd was also a big hit for Ch4 (it was hit and miss but there were some very funny episodes). I think not liking him as a person is enough rather than going back and trying to then claim he wasn't talented. A lot of awful people are very talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) Black Books series 1 is better than the other 2 series, and I reckon that's probably down to Linehan's involvement in that series. The IT Crowd is shit though, and Count Arthur Strong is abysmal.   Edited May 11, 2022 by gmoney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, gmoney said: Count Arthur Strong is abysmal.  I was going to mention this as the main part of my reasoning for assuming Mathews is much funnier and more creative than Linehan - Count Arthur Strong, thematically, deals with the same sort of world as Toast of London, but is utter dogshit. It's the closest to a side-by-side comparison we've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators neil Posted May 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2022 15 hours ago, Chest Rockwell said: I don't like it so I wouldn't know, but is there really other than the infamous storyline that kicked that whole business off? More than the casual transphobia that's prevalent in the other comedies of its time? There is an episode that involves some gay storyline that I recall plays on stereotypes and the general "I'm not gay!!" shock. But haven't seen it in years so could be over-inflating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited)  16 minutes ago, BomberPat said: I was going to mention this as the main part of my reasoning for assuming Mathews is much funnier and more creative than Linehan - Count Arthur Strong, thematically, deals with the same sort of world as Toast of London, but is utter dogshit. It's the closest to a side-by-side comparison we've got.  If you listen to the Father Ted commentaries, which I did many years ago, you get the sense that Linehan doesn't really like Ted any more and would do it differently if he had the chance (i.e ruin it). He's got an obsession with Seinfeld and how the episodes are structured. Which is fine, it's great, but it's not the only way to do a comedy. It's clearly had a detrimental effect on his writing as he becomes more obsessed with the form over funny jokes. I remember he hates A Christmassy Ted because it's too long, with disparate strands. But that's bollocks. It's well funny. It doesn't need to be tight like a Lumet film. Edited May 11, 2022 by gmoney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, BomberPat said: I was going to mention this as the main part of my reasoning for assuming Mathews is much funnier and more creative than Linehan - Count Arthur Strong, thematically, deals with the same sort of world as Toast of London, but is utter dogshit. It's the closest to a side-by-side comparison we've got. I think his involvement with Count Arthur Strong was more just adapting it from radio to TV. The bits of the radio show I've heard have a lot of the gags from the TV show there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 7 hours ago, air_raid said: any other British sitcom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chris B said: Though technically it was created by Channel 4 and Hat Trick Productions, so it's not wrong to say it's a British show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, gmoney said: Though technically it was created by Channel 4 and Hat Trick Productions, so it's not wrong to say it's a British show. Alright, Oliver Cromwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted May 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 11, 2022 Was Cromwell famously correct about things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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