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Ah, you're right - I think both may have had the "On Earth" tagline at some point? I was sure I'd seen Contamination with the Alien 2 title, but I've obviously just conflated the two. 

Contamination has music by Goblin, while Alien 2 has music by Oliver Onions, so they're both hitting all the right notes for bonkers derivative Italian cinema, anyway.

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22 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

Ah, you're right - I think both may have had the "On Earth" tagline at some point? I was sure I'd seen Contamination with the Alien 2 title, but I've obviously just conflated the two. 

It's entirely possible, Italian horror films and the naming of them has always been a fascinatingly confusing subject. Even George Romero's zombie films used to get roped into the confusion.

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Just now, Devon Malcolm said:

It's entirely possible, Italian horror films and the naming of them has always been a fascinatingly confusing subject. Even George Romero's zombie films used to get roped into the confusion.

Oh God, yeah. 

If I remember correctly, it's because Dawn Of The Dead was released in Italy as "Zombi", then Lucio Fulci (who, along with Bruno Mattei, pretty much created a cottage industry of Italian faux-sequels) retitled an unrelated zombie move as "Zombi 2", to cash in on Romero's movie. To confuse things more, that movie was released as "Zombie" in the US, but Zombi 3 was Zombie 3 in the US. Various American distributors then packaged entirely unrelated international movies as "Zombie" sequels, so it becomes completely impossible to follow pretty quickly. I think there's an edition of Night Of The Living Dead out there somewhere called "Zombi 0".

I can't remember the specific set of circumstances that led to this being the norm, but it basically comes down to lax copyright laws in Italy in the '70s and '80s, and a slow release time for US films to make it the Italian market, so unscrupulous directors would try and capitalise on big names. Bruno Mattei even made a film called Terminator 2 in 1989, which is actually an Alien rip-off, confusingly...and, just to muddle things more, it was also released as Alien 2, and Contaminator.


Moving away from horror, but I actually unironically love a specific sub-set of these Italian knock-offs that just mash up Mad Max, The Warriors and Escape From New York. There's a ton of them, and all wonderful.

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39 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

Imagine a film trilogy that includes House of 1000 Corpses and the latest film is considered "the weakest of the three."

Not a fan then? :)

In fact staying with 'House Of 1000 Corpses', I only realized earlier this year that one of the victims is Chris Hardwick¬†(of Talking Dead / Talking Saul)¬†ūüėß

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23 hours ago, BomberPat said:

Oh God, yeah. 

If I remember correctly, it's because Dawn Of The Dead was released in Italy as "Zombi", then Lucio Fulci (who, along with Bruno Mattei, pretty much created a cottage industry of Italian faux-sequels) retitled an unrelated zombie move as "Zombi 2", to cash in on Romero's movie. To confuse things more, that movie was released as "Zombie" in the US, but Zombi 3 was Zombie 3 in the US. Various American distributors then packaged entirely unrelated international movies as "Zombie" sequels, so it becomes completely impossible to follow pretty quickly. I think there's an edition of Night Of The Living Dead out there somewhere called "Zombi 0".

Some of the later Zombi ‚Äúsequels‚ÄĚ aren‚Äôt even zombie films. Apparently, Calamity of Snakes was released as Zombi 9.

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Yarp, I still love it despite it some times making me wonder why. Episode 2 this season was so utterly shite I even considered giving up for a second. Then episode 3 was ace and I remembered it's the Walking Dead, it's like watching RAW except more consistent. I also love Fear Of The Walking Dead but I'm always a year behind on that because I watch it on Amazon Prime.

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Anyone ever been to Horror-on-Sea? Fancy the idea of a horror festival but no idea of what it's actually like. Don't wanna spend 3 days in a 3/4 empty cinema with a small handful of unwashed neck beards watching terrible films if I can avoid it. 

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14 hours ago, DEF said:

Yarp, I still love it despite it some times making me wonder why. Episode 2 this season was so utterly shite I even considered giving up for a second. Then episode 3 was ace and I remembered it's the Walking Dead, it's like watching RAW except more consistent. I also love Fear Of The Walking Dead but I'm always a year behind on that because I watch it on Amazon Prime.

I didn't hate the second episode, but did wonder why they'd put a backstory episode so close to the start of the season. Things should pick up a bit now with the Negan/Whisperers story.

I watched about 1 1/2 season of Fear The Walking Dead, then gave up.

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24 minutes ago, TheSurgeon said:

I didn't hate the second episode, but did wonder why they'd put a backstory episode so close to the start of the season. Things should pick up a bit now with the Negan/Whisperers story.

I watched about 1 1/2 season of Fear The Walking Dead, then gave up.

Yeah I struggled quite alot with the first season of Fear but really started to dig it somewhere in the 2nd. It helps that by and large the main threat is still Zombies/dealing with the zombie apocalypse and not the Walking Dead formula of which new heel faction will invade this season? 

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8 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

I watched one episode of The Walking Dead and that was more than enough.

Yeah but you openly have stated a million times you rather never see another zombie film again than another generic one. Let alone one as badly written as The Walking Dead.

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