Keith Houchen Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ultimate Hitman said: Donating to charity & displaying a poppy to commemorate our fallen heroes as well as support those that made it through terrible war is exactly the same as saying āThese Hesbollah lads are alright you knowā & letting the world know youāre a āhimā. Good. So weāre agreed than š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallicks Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Seems to be an awful lot of Corbyn slagging going on for TTAC thread. Also how do you mute people?Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra_gordo Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Keith Houchen said: Virtue signalling is an outward display of what a nice supportive person you are, usually a cause that doesnāt affect you and never has, for the benefit of others so they can see what a good person you are. Case in point: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 The main charge against Corbyn was that he led the Labour party to an historic Conservative general election victory. I really donāt care which flavour of Labour party you prefer, what I want is one that can get rid of the Tories (see thread title). The only Labour leader to manage that in the last 40 years was Tony Blair so Iāll take another of him, or indeed him again, war crimes and all. Ā As long as it is more important for the Labour movement to be the good guys and win all the arguments, than achieve power, we will continue to have disastrous right wing governments. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Loki said: The main charge against Corbyn was that he led the Labour party to an historic Conservative general election victory. I really donāt care which flavour of Labour party you prefer, what I want is one that can get rid of the Tories (see thread title). The only Labour leader to manage that in the last 40 years was Tony Blair so Iāll take another of him, or indeed him again, war crimes and all. Ā As long as it is more important for the Labour movement to be the good guys and win all the arguments, than achieve power, we will continue to have disastrous right wing governments. Ā You not a Lib Dem any more then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Hitman Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Loki said: The main charge against Corbyn was that he led the Labour party to an historic Conservative general election victory. I really donāt care which flavour of Labour party you prefer, what I want is one that can get rid of the Tories (see thread title). The only Labour leader to manage that in the last 40 years was Tony Blair so Iāll take another of him, or indeed him again, war crimes and all. Ā As long as it is more important for the Labour movement to be the good guys and win all the arguments, than achieve power, we will continue to have disastrous right wing governments. Ā The fact youād rather a war criminal (Iām assuming you label TB as such) in power than the Tories tells its own story. Although I personally donāt believe Blair to a war criminal, Iād too have him back. As disastrous as the stories have been a Corbyn led Labour would have been many times worse. Starmner is a stop gap. Itās a shame, weāre stuck with the Tories for the foreseeable. Labour need to return to centre left, rid themselves of the pseudo hippies & pull out something major, perhaps promising a referendum on reversing/rejoining the EU. As it stands swing voters will stay Tory & many Labour will stay away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: You not a Lib Dem any more then? Under PR, I am whoever can remove my obnoxious Tory MP. Ā Iāve long since given up on tribal party politics in favour of voting for whoever can give my what I want. Edited May 20, 2022 by Loki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69MeDon Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ultimate Hitman said: perhaps promising a referendum on reversing/rejoining the EU. As it stands swing voters will stay Tory & many Labour will stay away. You reckon the secret to a long-term Labour majority government is re-opening the fucking Brexit debate that has poisoned everything for the last six years? Edited May 20, 2022 by 69MeDon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Hitman Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, 69MeDon said: You reckon the secret to a long-term Labour majority government is re-opening the fucking Brexit debate that has poisoned everything for the last six years? Yes tbh. Needs something massive for them to even stand a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 38 minutes ago, Ultimate Hitman said: Labour need to return to centre left I'm confused as to what you currently think they are, if you still believe they need to return to the centre left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Hitman Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: I'm confused as to what you currently think they are, if you still believe they need to return to the centre left. Far left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ultimate Hitman said: Far left Been in a bit of a depressive funk today and this made me laugh quite a bit, so thanks for that.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members stumobir Posted May 20, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 20, 2022 53 minutes ago, Ultimate Hitman said: perhaps promising a referendum on reversing/rejoining the EU. You do realise this was probably the biggest reason for Labourās defeat in 2019? He caved to the centrists like Starmer who were pushing for an absurdly named āPeopleās Voteā which led to the massive collapse of traditional Labour strongholds in the North, seats he held (and even made gains) just 2 years before against May. Itās almost like you donāt have a solitary fucking clue what youāre talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted May 20, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted May 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, stumobir said: You do realise this was probably the biggest reason for Labourās defeat in 2019? He caved to the centrists like Starmer who were pushing for an absurdly named āPeopleās Voteā which led to the massive collapse of traditional Labour strongholds in the North, seats he held (and even made gains) just 2 years before against May. Itās almost like you donāt have a solitary fucking clue what youāre talking about. This is what happens when all your political discourse is gathered from TikTok and GB News. I bet Hitmanās twitter handle contains a load of numbers and his profile picture is of a Bulldog surrounded by a Union Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Hitman Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said: This is what happens when all your political discourse is gathered from TikTok and GB News. I bet Hitmanās twitter handle contains a load of numbers and his profile picture is of a Bulldog surrounded by a Union Jack. Flag of Greece & a cross if you must know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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