Paid Members Egg Shen Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 Im not really sure what to make of Conor anymore. I mean, its not like hes on the decline from a fame and success standpoint, the guy is on course to be a billionaire if reports are to be believed. The knives are out for him though and its painting a picture of a guy far removed from the guy everyone fell in love with in the first place. I think as fight fans in our little bubble its become frustrating that he isn't around anymore, like the regular sitdowns with Helwani for example, the press conferences or any other kind of social media activity, back in the day it was all brilliant fun whether you loved or hated the man. The guy's just transcended the sport, he doesnt need to sport anymore and as people who enjoyed what he brought to the actual fight game its just disappointing that such a charismatic and entertaining personality isnt giving us what we want and has moved away from the game in his physical prime. Saying that, he'll be back...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 Conor should step away, in my opinion. Yes, part of that is down to becoming a bit disinterested in him because he doesn't really fight much anymore, but the other part is because I don't think Conor has it in him anymore to compete with the elite consistently. At one time he was truly an exceptional fighter, but it hasn't gone unnoticed that post-May/Mac Conor has pretty much fallen into all the traps he said he wouldn't because he realised it would only lead to his MMA career sliding. When you're ignoring your own sound advice and belief system that made you a double champ, you know you're probably in trouble, from an in-cage POV. Anyway, it most certainly reeks of a power play. Conor and the UFC have been at it for nearly 5 years. It usually leads to the UFC giving Conor just enough to get him back, but never what he probably deserves or wants.
David Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: Im not really sure what to make of Conor anymore. I mean, its not like hes on the decline from a fame and success standpoint, the guy is on course to be a billionaire if reports are to be believed. The knives are out for him though and its painting a picture of a guy far removed from the guy everyone fell in love with in the first place. A billionaire? What reports are telling you that? His biggest payday was the Mayweather fight, which was $100 million. Mayweather earned over 3 times that, and is himself probably around three quarters of the way to becoming a billionaire. Sports stars who become legitimate billionaires are few and far between. You're talking about Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods territory. It's rarified air up there, and McG won't be anywhere near that level.
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 I imagine he'd get his biggest payday, in the future, when and if he sells Proper Twelve, which has been a massive success from pretty much every report. Conor claims fighting is his "third level income" now - who knows. Not sure about the billy status, though.
David Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, ColinBollocks said: I imagine he'd get his biggest payday, in the future, when and if he sells Proper Twelve, which has been a massive success from pretty much every report. Conor claims fighting is his "third level income" now - who knows. Not sure about the billy status, though. Yeah, the thing is he'll be talking about fighting at the UFC level, which, no matter what he says at press conferences, isn't netting him $50 million per fight. He's not making that kind of dough, even with the numbers he's doing. The Proper Twelve business will continue to bring money in for as long as he's relevant. How popular it'll be in five years, for example, who knows? It's trading on his name for the most part, as the reviews I've seen of the actual drink itself have been fucking abysmal. Think about the type of superstars we've seen in sports. Cristiano Ronaldo, for example. For the past four or five years he's made just over what McG made for the Mayweather fight, except he's made it every single year. Lionel Messi earns $650,000 every single week, and routinely makes over $100 million per year from wages and sponsorships with some of the biggest companies in the world. Neither of those two guys are ranked as billionaires, with the likes of Forbes listing them both at around the $500 - $700 million mark. Could McGregor have reached that kind of level eventually? Probably, if he'd been smart and had actually fought enough to continue earning. He hasn't though, even if he isn't quitting just now he's not going to have long enough to make the kind of money needed to crack the top ten, never mind the billionaires list. Even after the Mayweather fight McGregor wasn't ranked in the top 25 richest sports stars of all time. The billionaires of the sports world are the names who are known to absolutely everyone regardless of them following sports or not. Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Jack Niklaus, Michael Schumacher. That's your billionaires list.
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 Agreed. He'll only get to the B level from his outside businesses. Realistically, even when he admits this retirement was another load of bollocks, he's probably only fighting a few more times before giving it up.
Moderators neil Posted March 26, 2019 Moderators Posted March 26, 2019 This news, even if it's true, really doesn't bother me in the slightest. Hell, GSP's retirement was more impactful for me. McGregor is just boring now and seems totally irrelevant to the MMA world.
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 Yeh i might have been a bit off with the billionaire thing ? think it stemmed from Dana White saying the whiskey would make him one, im sure i'd read other stuff about it though at the time of its launch because it was massively successful.
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, neil said: McGregor is just boring now and seems totally irrelevant to the MMA world. Thats what i was talking about in my initial post, some people seem to think the guy is on the slide and revel in talking about it. Hes moved away from what made him, but outside of it hes doing incredibly well for himself. Back when it launched a lot of people seemed to take joy in the fact that Conor's whiskey was apparently of poor quality, it felt like it comforted people to know that it was flawed, yet it still smashed sales records and made him a ridiculous amount of money.
David Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: Thats what i was talking about in my initial post, some people seem to think the guy is on the slide and revel in talking about it. Hes moved away from what made him, but outside of it hes doing incredibly well for himself. He is on the slide. He's a shell of the fighter he was a few years ago, and that's down to him neglecting that part of his life most likely. I only really care about McGregor as an MMA fighter. If he wants to make deals for whiskey and buy houses in Miami then fair play to him, but that has no bearing on me. If he was sliding as a fighter, but wasn't involved in such dickish behaviour outside the cage I doubt he'd have as many haters. All but his most ardent fans have shifted to feeling ambivalent at best about him. He's brought that on himself.
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 i wasnt talking about him as a fighter, i meant his popularity/success away from being a fighter.
jimufctna24 Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Conor has been training at a gym in California recently. There was speculation that the gym was his new full-time base. He also openly stated last week that he would fight Diaz again. On face value, those aren't signs of a fighter who is ready to call it a day. Why the apparent change of heart? As others have said, it's most likely a bargaining tactic. It could also be a case of Conor changing his mind like the wind. He doesn't strike me as being particularly even-minded these days. 19 minutes ago, David said: He's a shell of the fighter he was a few years ago, and that's down to him neglecting that part of his life most likely Agreed to an extent I read somewhere that Kavanagh claimed that the McGregor of two years ago would have never been dropped by Khabib. He felt that McGregor was too rusty after being out for two years. On the other hand, Cormier was very impressed with McGregor's takedown defence. Khabib had to work very hard for some of his takedowns. I would like to see him fight again before proclaiming him to be a "shell" of his former self though. Khabib was always going to be a horrible match-up for him. The Conor of a few years ago would have likely lost in the same fashion. It's possible that Conor's rust would not have been exposed against a lesser-opponent. And if he stayed more active, it's possible that he could become the fighter he once was.
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 Yeah, I think you could take any version of McGregor and Khabib mops the Octagon with him 9 times out of 10. It’s just a bad style matchup for him. The worst matchup. Khabib is, and will always be, all wrong for McGregor. There’s still a load of potentially awesome fights for McGregor when the UFC gives him whatever he’s haggling for and he comes back. Rematches with Diaz, Holloway, Poirier or Aldo. Fresh fights with Cerrone, Pettis, Iaquinta or Gaethje etc. There are tons of them. He should probably leave the Khabib thing alone though, if actually winning a fight means anything to him anymore. There are easier ways to make money. And I’m not saying Khabib’s unbeatable. Just that Conor isn’t the man for that job.
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted March 26, 2019 Paid Members Posted March 26, 2019 Conor v Raging Al is the fight I pine for the most in Conor's immediate future. I think it leads perfectly into a Khabib rematch with the winner too. Al deserves the rub, brother. Al's only lost 1 fight in 7 and that was against Khabib. Granted, Khabib won all 5 rounds, but Rogan decided to paint a narrative where one Al punch was more "OWW!" compared to 5 of Khabib's efforts. I'm sure the UFC will pretend it was a more even fight than it was too. Still, on short notice, Al did a great job stopping Khabib smashing him on the ground.
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