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[TildeGuy~!]

1 hour ago, westlondonmist said:

Phantasmo is a new Japan wrestler, he holds a title so isn't just a rev Pro guy. Hikuleo also 1st showed up in New Japan ages ago in  2017, although mainly as he is GOD'S brother.

Yes, I’m aware of that but this is their main promotion currently otherwise they’d be living and on every show in Japan wouldn’t they?

Hikuleo is on excursion over here

Edited August 14, 2019 by TildeGuy~!

[Ironic Indie Lad]

12 hours ago, Michael_3165 said:

Okada vs Suzuki is a reasonable match, they normally have decent showings.

Just to be clear...this is definitely a post about Kazuchika Okada and Minoru Suzuki?

[Michael_3165]

Yes. Some people dislike suzuki's mma heavy style. And Okada a goes long constantly. 

[TildeGuy~!]

Some people dislike Suzuki’s style and Okada having long entertaining matches?

Is some people just you?

 

[Michael_3165]

What's w the attitude? Oh people can't havee a difference of opinion. Stupidly forgot. Twat. 

[TildeGuy~!]

If it’s your opinion then hey it’s your opinion but don’t label it as “some people” 

You’ve been moaning constantly about the use of RevPro guys on this show and others that are being used because you’d rather Lance Archer be on the show.

Now you complain about a Massive Main Event because you’re not big fans of them and you don’t want it to go past 20mins?

You’re the Twat.

Edited August 14, 2019 by TildeGuy~!

[Snugglecakes]

I don't Suzuki's style either, for what it's worth. Okada also has a tendency for long, self-indulgent matches against guys who aren't capable of keeping up.

Edited August 14, 2019 by Snugglecakes

[Ironic Indie Lad]

17 minutes ago, Snugglecakes said:

Okada also has a tendency for long, self-indulgent matches against guys who aren't capable of keeping up.

For example?

[Snugglecakes]

1 hour ago, Ironic Indie Lad said:

For example?

Well, Suzuki himself for one. I know Meltzer rated it highly, but I found the Sapporo match to be boring. This year alone, we've had the Jericho match from a few months ago. A lot of Okada's matches go about ten to fifteen minutes too long, but that's just my opinion. I know some people think he's the greatest of all time or something.

[KingofSports]

4 hours ago, Ironic Indie Lad said:

Just to be clear...this is definitely a post about Kazuchika Okada and Minoru Suzuki?

Of the 4 or so matches I've seen them have, 3 were solid (but no more) and one was a stinker.

[Ironic Indie Lad]

51 minutes ago, Snugglecakes said:

Well, Suzuki himself for one. I know Meltzer rated it highly, but I found the Sapporo match to be boring. This year alone, we've had the Jericho match from a few months ago. A lot of Okada's matches go about ten to fifteen minutes too long, but that's just my opinion. I know some people think he's the greatest of all time or something.

Fair enough, if that's your taste.

Personally I am of the opinion that a world championship match being 25+ mins on a big show is a good thing when the participants are of the upper level NJPW calibre. The match you've mentioned featured an out of shape man pushing 50 and definitely could have been shorter.

I wouldn't agree that Okada habitually goes too long.

[Cheapheat]

Okada doesn't know shit about timing a match.   Jesus fucking Christ. 

[Polish Dad]

That's a pretty consistent criticism of Okada, right? That he plods through the preceding 20-25mins and then bangs out an absolutely stellar final five minutes that is so good it lifts the match up to his usual 4-5 stars territory.

[Ironic Indie Lad]

The counter argument to that is that he's a master of building to a crescendo and times his key spots better than anybody in the business.

 

[DavidB6937]

Yeah to be honest it took me a while to get used to the pacing on NJPW matches but I can't say I have any issues with Okada's work now. I certainly feel his pacing is a lot better than many.