Paid Members Jazzy G Posted April 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted April 10, 2017 IS this thing true about Mauro removing all WWE related information from his Twitter? Yes, yes it is. https://twitter.com/mauroranallo I guess he'll just be sitting out the rest of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 34 minutes ago, eugenespeed said: Ric Flair kicked out of Fort Wayne, Indiana bar. I actually have friends in Fort Wayne. They love this. http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/04/09/ric-flair-kicked-out-fort-wayne-bar/100272794/ Get kicked out of bar, have your next gig plugged by local newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted April 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted April 10, 2017 No such thing as bad publicity sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehoncho Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Gus Mears said: That's a excellent story. I hope I am that much of a complete bellend when I'm pushing 70. I am at 46 ... don't intend on changing by 70! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, ColinBollocks said: Cheers for that, Benno. WWE are still miles away from their initial projections, right? Without digging, I cant really remember initial projections for this far down the line. I remember they were aiming for golden 1m subscribers to really start pushing profit but since then they've probably upped costs by making new content although initial start up costs should be dropping considerably. My guess is that they are satisfied with the figures but might be slightly concerned with the slow down of paying customers over the last two years and have a long term aim of hitting 2m paid subsribers. I wonder if thats the ceiling for it though at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted April 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted April 10, 2017 Are the subscriber numbers just those subscribed to the Network through WWE's web/app offerings? Because it's a TV service in some parts of the world isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Benno Posted April 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted April 10, 2017 Yeah they're doing well with the network, probably on the low end of what would be considered well, but their initial projections were down right silly. They were expecting 2-3 million steady state subscribers in the US alone by now and had some daft numbers out of a 6-8 million ceiling based on that ridiculous study where they over egged how many households have a lapsed fan in them. I think 2-3 million is the real ceiling, but that's worldwide, not domestic. Pretty sure they include the TV network subscribers in all this, Canada being the main one, but I don't think the number is substantial. Surprised it never happened here with Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Benno Posted April 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) They still include that daft "affinity" survey in their investor slides. Think the lapsed section is all the millions Scotswizard keeps banging on about. Here's something with average subscribers for the person who was asking for a mean figure. http://corporate.wwe.com/investors/sec-and-other-documents/investor-presentations   Edited April 10, 2017 by Benno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam O'Rourke Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Those initial numbers were all total flim-flam to hoodwink the investors into agreeing that it was a great move to make (since to this day, they haven't reached the profitability level they had with the PPV model - given the cost of the Network, projecting 2-3 million was the only way to justifiably switch. The way they came up with those numbers were so absurd that it boggles the mind people bought that stock based on them. But hey, buy on potential, sell on results, as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gus Mears Posted April 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted April 10, 2017 Aren't they still basically up the shitter without the TV deals? Or am I making this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam O'Rourke Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 You're correct. If TV goes, they're up shit creek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted April 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted April 10, 2017 No you're not making it up Gus. Their profitability completely hinges on the TV deal not only staying as good as it is, but they probably need it to get larger when the next renewal comes up. A drastic cut in the rights fees and there would be some serious sweating going on at Titan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Dammer Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Gus Mears said: Aren't they still basically up the shitter without the TV deals? Or am I making this up? They would be yeah, but so would any TV content creator. They wont be without a good TV deal for a long while and if TV does change substantially then I imagine they have plans for how to adjust to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clint Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Benno said: Surprised it never happened here with Sky. Probably because Sky are aware that many subscribe to Sky Sports solely for WWE. They don't want to mess with their churn rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Benno Posted April 10, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) Yeah TV is still their biggest driver.  They love bringing up YouTube views though. They obviously hope they'll one day make actual money there. Edited April 10, 2017 by Benno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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