Snitsky's back acne Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, BomberPat said: Wasn't she repeatedly turned down for WWE-sponsored rehab, even during the "we'll pay for it all for the PR" era? According to her, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members unfitfinlay Posted November 29, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 2:34 PM, jazzygeofferz said: I do wonder how much of it was her going even further off the rails after Candido passed away. Candido was probably the closest thing to a constant in her life, in spite of how she treated him. I wonder how she'll get on in prison. Will she even make it back out? She did bring this on herself, and it's a shame as when she went into the Hall Of Fame it looked like she had at the very least started to try and get things back on track. I'm going entirely off of stuff Johnny Candido has said about their relationship but I think it's more that Chris protected her in ways that no one else would and hid how crazy she was. She used to try and stab him on a regular basis and he'd just let it go, whereas one of her most recent boyfriends went straight to the Police when she did it to him. Candido was also apparently one of the nicest guys on the planet so people would "forgive" her or look out for her, just because he was the one asking. She lost that kind of thing when he died. 20 hours ago, BomberPat said: Wasn't she repeatedly turned down for WWE-sponsored rehab, even during the "we'll pay for it all for the PR" era? I think they paid a few times but then washed their hands of her. I seem to remember her complaining that Scott Hall had been through rehab more than her but still got it paid for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lorne Malvo Posted November 30, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 5:37 PM, Snitsky's back acne said: They didn't make her repeatedly get behind the wheel of a car while drunk, however. I agree that she was enabled by a lot of people during her time in the industry but her actions over the past 10 years or so are hers alone. Many people are addicts and/or have mental health issues but don't repeatedly drive while drunk, nor do they laugh about it/dismiss it after coming out of jail for doing so. Regarding the DUIs, she seemed to get a much rougher time of it online than Jeff Hardy or Jimmy Uso, who seem to get immediately forgiven everytime once they return to the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snitsky's back acne Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, Lorne Malvo said: Regarding the DUIs, she seemed to get a much rougher time of it online than Jeff Hardy or Jimmy Uso, who seem to get immediately forgiven everytime once they return to the ring. That's wrestling fandom, sadly. It's why certain people in Speaking Out are still active and others were exiled completely. Double standards in the wrestling world should come as a shock to no-one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted November 30, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Snitsky's back acne said: Double standards in the wrestling world should come as a shock to no-one. It's a really weird type of misogyny that I never understand. If the male wrestlers are given more leniency because the weirdos love their work in the wrestling, I'd have assumed female personalities would be forgiven even quicker when they qualify for (a) love their work in the wrestling AND (b) love them "the other way" as much as Sunny was adored in her prime. But it's not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JLM Posted November 30, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted November 30, 2023 See also: Dudes who happily watch porn but have a weirdly puritanical and judgmental outlook on women who make money through Onlyfans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRooster Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Lorne Malvo said: Regarding the DUIs, she seemed to get a much rougher time of it online than Jeff Hardy or Jimmy Uso, who seem to get immediately forgiven everytime once they return to the ring. While misogyny clearly exists in wrestling and among wrestling fans, a contributing factor to her treatment online - at least in more recent years - may well have been the kind of things she herself was saying and posting on social media, making controversial comments related to race in the mid 2010s, before going on to explicitly support Donald Trump, hashtagging ‘ white power’ in a tweet and calling people the n-word on Twitter. While it is sad to see someone go on a downward spiral fuelled by substance abuse, and it is sad to see someone consumed by hate and bigotry, it’s even worse to see the impact that bigotry has on the wider world, the political climate and those subjected to it. So yeah, I have mixed feelings about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted November 30, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, JLM said: See also: Dudes who happily watch porn but have a weirdly puritanical and judgmental outlook on women who do any kind of sex work. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironic Indie Lad Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I dont think anything has ever really encapsulated the true seedy nature of the business like this. Addict Sunny getting her laughing gear around Sabu while he dangles a bag of pills, refusing to give them over until he busts off. The boys going "how could she do this to Chris tho?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUM Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ironic Indie Lad said: I dont think anything has ever really encapsulated the true seedy nature of the business like this. Addict Sunny getting her laughing gear around Sabu while he dangles a bag of pills, refusing to give them over until he busts off. The boys going "how could she do this to Chris tho?" I mean both of them deny it in fairness. Wrestling is full of carny stories told in shoots by other wrestlers hunting to get over. It’s a messed up world but it’s probably less messed up than they would have you believe. Old adage of never let facts get in the way of a good story when it comes to wrestlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironic Indie Lad Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, FUM said: I mean both of them deny it in fairness. Wrestling is full of carny stories told in shoots by other wrestlers hunting to get over. It’s a messed up world but it’s probably less messed up than they would have you believe. Old adage of never let facts get in the way of a good story when it comes to wrestlers. It's actually 100% true except it was The Sandman noshing off Sabu (probably) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JLM Posted November 30, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted November 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, Carbomb said: Fixed. True true. Dehumanisation and judgment of all sex workers remains rife, just been seeing more of it aimed at Onlyfans models lately because it’s in the social media/click bait “news” a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted November 30, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted November 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, JLM said: True true. Dehumanisation and judgment of all sex workers remains rife, just been seeing more of it aimed at Onlyfans models lately because it’s in the social media/click bait “news” a lot. Absolutely. I once got into an argument with an old colleague because a woman pornstar had spoken out about how she'd been treated on set - harrowing shit. Being forced to continue even while in pain, being beaten as part of the scene even though she hadn't agreed to that type of scene, etc. I'd mentioned this article to another colleague at lunchbreak, and he piped up with "she asked for it by going into that line of work". I responded with "she asked to be paid for the work she did, in working conditions that didn't jeopardise her safety, like we all do". I also knew for a fact that this guy watched porn; there should be a Mental Olympics, because he'd have won gold in the gymnastics he was doing to justify his argument (which, predictably, included the usual "would you want your daughter doing that job?" question). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organizedkaos Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, air_raid said: It's a really weird type of misogyny that I never understand. If the male wrestlers are given more leniency because the weirdos love their work in the wrestling, I'd have assumed female personalities would be forgiven even quicker when they qualify for (a) love their work in the wrestling AND (b) love them "the other way" as much as Sunny was adored in her prime. But it's not the case. I think it comes down to hot women are seen as disposable and replacable, their worth not relating to a talent (and also relating to something that fades with age). They're objects, if they act like shitty people then you can just chuck out the object and find a new one. Also any actual talent (like Sunny had) is seen as being completely secondary as their role as a hot person. Wrestlers are seen as real people who have a specific skill which could be "wasted" by being barred from the industry/jailed. Gross. Edited November 30, 2023 by organizedkaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snitsky's back acne Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 hours ago, air_raid said: It's a really weird type of misogyny that I never understand. If the male wrestlers are given more leniency because the weirdos love their work in the wrestling, I'd have assumed female personalities would be forgiven even quicker when they qualify for (a) love their work in the wrestling AND (b) love them "the other way" as much as Sunny was adored in her prime. But it's not the case. It's a fascinating siphoning process that people have with their morality when it comes to these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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