CM Punk chat

[Carbomb]

I'm not sure why there isn't condemnation across the board for TK/AEW management here; regardless of whether or not people believe Ryan Nemeth's claims or not as pertains to Punk, the fact remains that his biggest grievance is that he went through the proper channels, followed proper procedure, did everything he was supposed to as an employee/contractor, and was ignored. Sure, that claim could possibly be false or exaggerated, but he felt that strongly about it that he forewent a serious financial settlement to be able to talk about it publicly.

[Snitsky's back acne]

10 hours ago, RedTwoster said:

Power imbalances just seem to be accepted in wrestling in a way they just aren’t in regular jobs. 

You've clearly never worked for where I work. 

[LaGoosh]

2 minutes ago, Carbomb said:

I'm not sure why there isn't condemnation across the board for TK/AEW management

Is there not? I think everyone has said AEW management appear to have handled this fucking terribly.

[Carbomb]

19 minutes ago, LaGoosh said:

Is there not? I think everyone has said AEW management appear to have handled this fucking terribly.

It's not so much about the consensus as regards AEW as there appearing to be a bit of criticism of Nemeth - to be honest, reading the thread back, I think I might have overplayed that in my head.

[BomberPat]

Something missing from that Fightful account that was in an earlier version of the report is that Ryan Nemeth also alleged that CM Punk had an "undisclosed executive/management role" in AEW.

That's something that has been suspected for a long time, and that I think fills in a lot of blanks - Punk's "I'm trying to run a business here" at the All Out press conference, but also it adds a bit of weight to Hangman criticising him on being a hypocrite about "worker's rights" if Punk was an executive when all that was going down, and it explains why he'd have had the clout to ban someone like Christopher Daniels from Collision. It also casts his brawl with Kenny and the Young Bucks in a new light if it's an intra-management brawl rather than management going after employees. 

[TheScarlettChad]

Why are wrestlers becoming execs? What does Punk have in experience that'd make him a good fit for that job?

[Lion_of_the_Midlands]

I thought the whole deal with Collision originally was that it was the show for Phil and Friends and that it was a way to try and keep the children who couldn't play nice with eachother apart, and for Tony to try and make some money back on the big contracts he was forking out. Whether he had an official secret management role is a moot point really, he was effectively in charge of Collision. It then comes as no surprise that he wouldn't want Chris Daniels or whichever interchangeable Nemeth it was on the show. Its a very different timeline if everyone involved had acted professionally, but given what we know neither side were capable of that. 

[SuperBacon]

1 minute ago, TheScarlettChad said:

Why are wrestlers becoming execs? What does Punk have in experience that'd make him a good fit for that job?

A long time working in the business?

[LaGoosh]

Just now, TheScarlettChad said:

Why are wrestlers becoming execs? What does Punk have in experience that'd make him a good fit for that job?

So they can get health care paid by the company probably. It's like when you see the star of a TV show listed as an Executive Producer. They do fuck all extra, it's just a way to give them extra perks. 

[Lion_of_the_Midlands]

1 minute ago, SuperBacon said:

A long time working in the business?

I've spent a long time eating pies, you shouldn't trust me to run a pie shop. 

Gooshy has the correct answer I think

Edited December 5, 2024 by Lion_of_the_Midlands
Mmmmmmm Pies.

[BomberPat]

2 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said:

 It then comes as no surprise that he wouldn't want Chris Daniels or whichever interchangeable Nemeth it was on the show. 

The point with Chris Daniels, rather than Ryan Nemeth, Colt Cabana, Matt Hardy, and anyone else he allegedly had barred from Collision, is that Daniels was Head of Talent Relations, and Punk was able to get him kicked out. That's a dynamic that makes a lot more sense with Punk himself being in a management role, than a wrestler having the clout to overrule someone in a management position, and also tells you something of how Punk seemingly saw his role.

It's important to note, too, that Punk being an executive pre-dates the creation of Collision, so it's not just that he was given a show as his playground and threw his weight around there. 

[Lion_of_the_Midlands]

That's fair Pat, though how effective Daniels could be as Head of Talent Relations when he seemingly had no relationship with Punk and perhaps other talent is beyond me. 

[Carbomb]

13 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said:

I thought the whole deal with Collision originally was that it was the show for Phil and Friends

They should've called it BrooksSide

[SuperBacon]

2 minutes ago, Carbomb said:

They should've called it BrooksSide

? Look in my eyes what do you see, a JESUS FUCKING CHRIST from Jimmy ?

[Lion_of_the_Midlands]

3 minutes ago, Carbomb said:

They should've called it BrooksSide