Vamp Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, Loki said: @johnnyboy  By this point though the new Hollywood is establishing itself and making big money films, and the Bond producers seem to feel that they have to respond.  So you get this odd mix of a set formula with the genre-du-jour imposed on top.  For such a successful franchise Bond is often very insecure about its value. Looking forward to the next movie now! I think that's what makes the Craig films more interesting than they intended. I find them more politically troubling than the older films, which I'm sure I've talked about before, because they try to seriously present Bond in the real world (which I know people retroactively tried to apply to the Connery films as well but it's bollocks). Having said that, for all their navel gazing, they're still Bond films. They try and make heritage movies but they're still reliant on tropes from other movies, such as The Dark Knight, and they're maybe even less confident at being Bond than ever. Which, because of the heavy handed way they try and connect Bond's plight to the plight of Britain (especially in Skyfall) says something far more interesting about Britain than I think they ever intended and in a way that's far more Fleming than I think they realised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted October 15, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted October 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, jazzygeofferz said: View To A Kill is my favourite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 A View to a Kill is the only Bond film I've sat and seen start to finish. It's a fucking awful film but I was delighted at everything utterly weird about it. Without looking it up I remember Grace Jones breaking Bond's old lad, some horse plot, Christopher Walker has a blimp and a superb hairstyle and the Duran Duran song. Oh and one of Walken's heavies played a Columbo baddie when they brought the show back but it wasn't as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) You missed the best part. Bond cooking a quiche.  To be fair to AVTAK, if they have been allowed to do the Eiffel Tower stunt the film would have probably had one of the top 10 stunts in the franchise (at least up to that point). It would have looked great. Unfortunately, someone else parachuted of the Eiffel Tower first and the local government got worried about copycats. Edited October 15, 2023 by Vamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Coconut Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Vamp said: Bond cooking a quiche. A what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 The name's Kwesh, BIT OF FUCKING KWESH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said: The name's Kwesh, BIT OF FUCKING KWESH. *Puts a Martini down his Tux pants* NO ONE CAN FUCKING HAVE ANY NOW CAN THEY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted October 15, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted October 15, 2023 The name's On, Cheese On. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted October 15, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, jazzygeofferz said: The name's On, Cheese On. Licensed to grill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted October 15, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted October 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Chili said: A View to a Kill is the only Bond film I've sat and seen start to finish. It's a fucking awful film but I was delighted at everything utterly weird about it. Without looking it up I remember Grace Jones breaking Bond's old lad, some horse plot, Christopher Walker has a blimp and a superb hairstyle and the Duran Duran song. Oh and one of Walken's heavies played a Columbo baddie when they brought the show back but it wasn't as good. And someone gets murdered with a Sony Walkman. I'm a bit soft on AVTAK, most likely because it was the first Bond I saw in a cinema, but I remember the chase with the Fire Engine being impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 You're not making this easy, I've got three more films to slog through before I get to A View... Â Anyone want to say why Octopussy is their favourite film? Â Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members johnnyboy Posted October 16, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Loki said: Anyone want to say why Octopussy is their favourite film? Horse's arse jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted October 16, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted October 16, 2023 GET OFF MY BED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Edit: fuck knows how you all embed gifs Edited October 16, 2023 by Loki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted October 16, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted October 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Loki said: Edit: fuck knows how you all embed gifs  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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