DavidB6937 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, 69MeDon said: What in the world are WWE going to do after this, when they can no longer rely on bringing in Attitude era/Ruthless Aggression era stars to sell tickets for Mania? Don't get me wrong, I'd be interested in seeing Steve Austin one more time, but 37 year old Kevin Owens vs 53 year old Steve Austin is hardly building future stars. How much of it is "relying" on these old stars to sell tickets? And how much is Mania selling itself? I've always known plenty of people that book tickets to Mania just because it's Mania rather than it being a card-driven purchase. It's tough to really see the overall impact now they've (a) gone to 2 nights and (b) we're still not back to 'normal' life after Covid. Plus I see Mania as one of those fairly bullet-proof events. I'd be far more concerned about performances of usual touring and weekly shows etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 15, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2022 obviously Covid forced their hand, but what I find fascinating is that the shift to two nights of Wrestlemania has coincided almost perfectly with the decline in their ability to rely on part-timers and "legends". The criticism was always that "legends" were given opportunities over, or booked stronger than, full-time talent, with no thought given to investing in the future, but with two nights to fill, it should have been much easier for them to thread the needle and put on the big dream matches and satisfying conclusions to stories built on weekly TV with the regular talent. Instead, two night Wrestlemanias came along just in time for the Undertaker to retire, Triple H to get sidelined, Chris Jericho, Batista, John Cena and The Rock to fuck them off, and with every possibility that Goldberg's contract isn't renewed after Elimination Chamber, and for AEW to come along and start poaching talent, while also showing with Sting that they're a viable platform for older wrestlers to find a second wind too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted February 15, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2022 I wouldn’t put too much stock in the 2-for-1 stuff. They’ll know where the line in the sand is for “fucking good margin” and “make a ton of money” and there’s a point where perception becomes more important and it’s about getting as many human beings in a building as possible to make it look like a great house. They did it when Hogan was bringing in the droves just because 15,000 looks better than 13,500 even though the latter still has you laughing your way to the bank. Some things never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaffer Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) Yeah that offer is in no way a fair signifier of them doing shit. If X-Seven was across two nights they'd be comping off some of the upper tiers too. I'm sure they done it anyway. Even in some of their hottest periods, these American megadomes are enormous to actually legit sell out full price. There's going to be that vague ceiling on just how many people you're going to be able to get to travel to X city for the biggest wrestling show of the year. Edited February 15, 2022 by Gay as FOOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted February 15, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2022 I'd agree, but they are also doing BOGO for both upcoming Raw and Smackdown shows and have been for a long time. The difference here is I don't know the last time a Wrestlemania had to do any kind of ticket promotions. It was always a guaranteed big seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted February 15, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said: The difference here is I don't know the last time a Wrestlemania had to do any kind of ticket promotions. Probably when it wasn't over two nights, you'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted February 15, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, mim731 said: Probably when it wasn't over two nights, you'd imagine. Source? 😉 I always get emails about Wrestlemania tickets, but I have never seen any offers on them like this. Sure, in the 90's we had venue changes, papered areas. But Mania since the attitude era has always drawn well, which is why I asked if anyone knew when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Gonna be hilarious if it turns out Owens is facing Cody (representing the home stage of his father). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Kennedy Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Not that Austin is going to be doing moonsaults from the turnbuckle to the outside at a Saudi Shitshow, but I really hope that that this doesn’t go as badly as it did for HBK. In all likelihood he’s probably going to be doing just as much in the ring as he’s been doing whenever he’s shown up over the past 19 years but it will be billed as a match to try and garner more interest. 19 years by the way, fuck me, where has the time gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted February 15, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2022 It'll be punches, talking smack, stomp a mudhole in the corner, a thesz press, some rest holds, a really safe pop up powerbomb. Owens gives Austin a stunner, Austin gives Owens a stunner, 1, 2, 3. Then a beer bash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaaaaad! Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Kennedy said: I really hope that that this doesn’t go as badly as it did for HBK. Aye, just imagine if he shows up bald with a little goatee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Kennedy Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Daaaaaad! said: Aye, just imagine if he shows up bald with a little goatee. Wait, you don’t think we’re getting Hollywood Blonde Stunning Steve vs. Kevin Owens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted February 16, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 hours ago, jazzygeofferz said: It'll be punches, talking smack, stomp a mudhole in the corner, a thesz press, some rest holds, a really safe pop up powerbomb. Owens gives Austin a stunner, Austin gives Owens a stunner, 1, 2, 3. Then a beer bash. Sounds brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted February 16, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 16, 2022 Amazed beyond belief if there's a Thesz Press or a pop up powerbomb in the match. Never say never obviously, look at Sting leaping about like a buck eijit for one. Punches, kicks and the Stunner on each side would do lovely though, with a pin at the end. It'll be one of the only things worth tuning into Mania for, if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted February 16, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted February 16, 2022 It would be. They'd work safe as houses and still tell a great story. Hit all Austin's signature spots, let Owens get some of his stuff in. Job's a good 'un. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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