Paid Members Dead Mike Posted October 4, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: Well the general consensus is the more the muscle you carry, the more prone you are to struggle cardio-wise, so if thats the case Conor's likely gonna be out of puff after defending a few takedowns and thats the last thing he wants to be against Khabib. I watched the McGregor/Alvarez fight again the other day & was surprised how many times Eddie clinched with Conor up against the cage. McGregor obviously shook that off & separated but I fear it's a luxury he wont have against Khabib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Ambulance Chaser said: I could outbox 97% of the people he's got in the "win column" Why don't you then? I'm sure you'd earn some serious coin with your rapier wit and boxing skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ambulance Chaser said: I could outbox 97% of the people he's got in the "win column". If he had the personality of David Price he'd be boxing in a leisure centre in Chorley, it's ALL he has Sure thing, sport. 24 minutes ago, Egg Shen said: Well the general consensus is the more the muscle you carry, the more prone you are to struggle cardio-wise, so if thats the case Conor's likely gonna be out of puff after defending a few takedowns and thats the last thing he wants to be against Khabib. It's also worth considering the way Khabib approaches his takedowns as well. He's not a traditional wrestler who just shoots in and goes hell for leather. I'm sure I'd seen it mentioned somewhere that he tends to shoot in a pattern of three attempts, with the first being to gauge the distance (this is usually not a completed takedown), the 2nd being to gauge your reaction and to try and put a little pressure on you (also usually not successful, but longer in nature and more energy needed to defend), with the 3rd being successful usually. After that he's on his game. It could be said that his usual approach will give McG a few more bites at the standup game than he'd maybe get against someone shooting for the kill right away, or it may lead him to get nervous and tire out. It's going to be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 4, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 4, 2018 What a strange man he is. Its shame Ferguson/Pettis is flying under the radar because thats a great fight. Im quite fancying Pettis for the upset myself, hes coming off a good win and all the talk is of him being himself again in the cage and fighting confidently. I think Ferguson may find himself in a spot of bother, the last time he fought someone who fought quite unconventionally he found himself in some shit (Lando Vanatta), add that to the injury and Ferguson sounding over confident and a bit pissed off i think he might get done in here. Pettis by career re-igniting KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted October 4, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 4, 2018 Aye. It's such an intriguing contest. Thing is, while Pettis looked like one of the best again in his last fight, his recent record is still a little all over the place. In normal circumstances I'd pick Ferguson over any man in the division, but as wand pointed out on the other page, Ferguson has rushed back at a ridiculous speed. No doubt he's trained like a demon, but it's still such a little window since having such extensive surgery. You wonder if he's taking this one a few months too early in the hope he gets that McGregor pay day. I bet Khabib does retire after the weekend, because we're never getting Khabib v Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I think someone claiming that Tyson Fury can't box in a thread like this is indicative of what happens during Conor season. Fuck sake. A fit, motivated, in-form Tyson Fury (and I have no idea whether he is still any of those things or not) beats both Wilder and Joshua. He's an incredible talent, with great fight IQ, fast feet and a rhythm and pacing that hypnotises people. He might not always be great to watch, but this isn't TV. It doesn't have to be great to watch to be great. I fancy McGregor and Pettis for the wins, and i don't know why. Surely worth an acca, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted October 4, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 4, 2018 It's a bit of a sad state of affairs that Pettis winning would be considered the upset. Remember when we thought he was going to be the GSP of lightweight? Amazing how far he's fallen, but I'd love to see him work his way back. Sounds like McGregor's decided there's no point trying to compete with Nurmagomedov for cardio, so he's just going for the KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Carbomb said: Sounds like McGregor's decided there's no point trying to compete with Nurmagomedov for cardio, so he's just going for the KO. it's a sound plan. if the fight goes beyond a minute or so of the 2nd round he's likely not winning, is he? By that point he's not got the stoppage (obviously) and I doubt it's been a previous round of them both on their feet so he'll be fucked already by then. Go in feeling sharp, cutting as little as possible, strong for the first 3 minutes and see what happens. He has a 30% chance of winning in my book, and if he's feeling strong and healthy then it's a good 30%. Not much else he can do really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 4, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 4, 2018 Yeah i think Conor needs to fight for a finish and quick. I think fully concentrating on preparing for a long, drawn our war would simply lead him into having that kind of fight, and he isnt going to win that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted October 4, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 4, 2018 I haven’t had time to watch or listen to all of the hype yet, but the bits and bobs I’ve seen from the last day or two feels like the old Conor is back. He seems lucid, engaging, happy to be there and not at all like the maniac we’ve seen these last few years. I guess we’ll never know if he’s, “dropping the act,” and letting the, “illusion of madness,” fade, or just allowing the cocaine to leave his system before he’s tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 4, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 4, 2018 He's seemed ok outside of that very strange press conference he did last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Speaking from my qualified position as someone who has never stepped foot in an MMA gym, is gearing for the KO finish within 3 minutes a good idea when you're not really a one shot specialist? McG's strength seems to be from his collective striking from unorthodox positions, punches in bunches if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: Speaking from my qualified position as someone who has never stepped foot in an MMA gym, is gearing for the KO finish within 3 minutes a good idea when you're not really a one shot specialist? McG's strength seems to be from his collective striking from unorthodox positions, punches in bunches if you will. You seem to be forgetting the "big left hand," which seemingly possesses Mike Tyson-esque power. You forgot the Irish dribblers all banging on about it in the lead up to the Mayweather fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I bet they could beat at least 85% of another Tysons opponents though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: I bet they could beat at least 85% of another Tysons opponents though. Another Tyson, AKA "not rapey" Tyson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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