zep81 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Vince introducing 'My instrument of destruction The UUUUndertaker" was great and made you imagine 1991 Deadman was coming out  Found it funny when Taker said something like "I'm not a puppet'. Shane should have asked him what most fan's are thinking "So why are you doing this then?" "Your'e even coming out when Vince tells you to".  "Vince's bitch" was a great line though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I feel like the 'why is Taker doing this?' questions are overthinking really. The CEO makes a match - it bloody happens. Most of his Mania programmes in the past decade or so have just been him accepting the first person that challenges him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clint Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I think Shane looks really uncomfortable infront of the camera these days. I think he's been out of the picture too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted March 16, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted March 16, 2016 Or, even better, as a Steve Morrow type. He can wrestle in a sling and an oxygen mask. Fucking yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Nick James Posted March 16, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted March 16, 2016 Or, even better, as a Steve Morrow type. He can wrestle in a sling and an oxygen mask. Brilliant idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapnut Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I feel like the 'why is Taker doing this?' questions are overthinking really. The CEO makes a match - it bloody happens. Most of his Mania programmes in the past decade or so have just been him accepting the first person that challenges him  But the dynamic of the match is totally fucked. We're supposed to be cheering Shane on to win and make some changes and get rid of his batty, out of touch old man and The Authority, yet he's facing arguably the most popular WWE superstar ever in his match at his pay-per-view in his home state. It's weird as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clint Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Yeah but we all know this match was a last minute deal because of Cena's injury. I wonder how they would've worked around the idea of shaking up Raw without Shane back on the scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big7thletter Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yeah but we all know this match was a last minute deal because of Cena's injury. I wonder how they would've worked around the idea of shaking up Raw without Shane back on the scene? we dont KNOW that its because Cena is out. It's very annoying seeing everyone saying how they KNEW it was gonna be Cena v Undertaker at 'Mania. It was never mentioned by the WWE, it was never hinted at by the WWE, it's just been fans assumptions, like the other year when everyone thought 'Taker was gonna take on Brock Lesnar at 'Mania and he ended up fighting CM Punk. Nothing was concrete about the Cena thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clint Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Meltzer said the Cena match was planned for months. So yes we did KNOW. Apparently Shane only agreed to the match 2 weeks before he returned. So would you say that this was always the planned match? Edited March 17, 2016 by The Clint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 It speaks volumes that I was dreading Dolph winning his match and becoming Shanes champion to face Taker in his place. Yeah, I'd rather see sugar Shane Austin wrestle than Ziggles. So would anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted March 17, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted March 17, 2016 Meltzer said the Cena match was planned for months. So yes we did KNOW. Apparently Shane only agreed to the match 2 weeks before he returned. So would you say that this was always the planned match? The fact that we "know" because of Meltzer shouldn't affect the TV product at all. It still has the weird dynamic Slapnut mentioned. That doesn't have to be the case. You either do Shane/Taker without the stip and make Shane a heel or you find an alternative opponent for Taker and put Shane in a match fans can get behind. Â This is just weird. And Taker selling for Shane sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boytoy Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yep, why make an effort when they can just have guys making matches which nobody cares about at Mania as well as on Raw and Smackdown. Can't believe WWE have managed to condition people into thinking that this is how it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambulance Chaser Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Shane's Wrestling brain and acumen is non existent, I mean somehow, some way he managed against all odds to land a few "shots" on Taker, keep on him Shane, smother him, oh no he's stepped back to shuffle his feet and dance. Shane's pop is diminishing and I think it's best they keep him off TV until the go home show, because all he's doing is managing to screw up a sure fire hit with his terrible performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinc Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) It was during a match against Undertaker on Raw in 2001 that Shane turned heel during the InVasion, wasn't it? Â The face/heel dynamic was all over the place then too. Babyface Shane leading a decidedly heel WCW invasion, going up against babyface Undertaker who was sticking up for still-heel Vince McMahon. Â It's barmy that almost this exact situation has recurred, a full fifteen years later. And barmier still that this time it's arguably the marquee match at the biggest show of all time! Â Edit: Ach no, it was more convoluted than that. The 7/9/01 Raw was supposed to open with Shane vs DDP in a street fight, but before the bell Undertaker came out and subbed himself into the match in Shane's place. The match was abandoned when Shane hit Undertaker with a kendo stick, thereby turning himself and the rest of WCW heel. Edited March 17, 2016 by Pinc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted March 21, 2016 Paid Members Share Posted March 21, 2016 Has Sami Zayn cut a promo yet? Or had a backstage vignette or video package? Admittedly, I usually watch Raw in the background whilst I tidy my flat, and I almost never watch Smackdown, but it feels like he showed up one week and then immediately just started having overlong matches with the mid-card chumps. I had such high hopes for him, but it feels like his call up to the main roster may have been the worst one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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