Pinc Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Christ, I hope that Max Landis gif doesn't become the stock response whenever anyone points out a booking inconsistency. I loved the film too but that's just obnoxious. I also gave him actual words describing why it was a waste of time trying to find logic in the "bad guy in charge" scenario. You know, an actual measured response, not just a meme for the sake of a meme. You want obnoxious? Spin on it. Aye fair enough, I think it just seemed obnoxious coming immediately after Chili used the same quote, albeit without the elaboration you provided. I don't like the 'just don't think about it' defense though. Wrestling stories are weaker where they feature booking inconsistencies, as with all fiction, but it doesn't ruin them entirely. The Sting vigilante story would be stronger if Herbie's objections were better dealt with on screen, and we'd all likely be more excited about the match. As it is, it hasn't been executed perfectly and it's okay to acknowledge that rather than letting them off the hook with it's not real/don't think about it. It's still been a fairly enjoyable angle. I was jumping round the room when Sting came out at Survivor Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WWFChilli Posted March 24, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) In fairness I think me and Raid posted about 10 seconds of each other. I've just learnt to never get my hopes up with WWE, especially these days and especially with stars like Sting. Just getting burned too many times to really invest. An actual explanation was seriously due, because it sure as hell didn't make sense. Wondering why heel owners employ or allow to employ people they don't like is daft though. Edited March 24, 2015 by WWFChilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUM Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Was just thinking about Rusev while watching RAW and does anyone think he'd have been as successful as he has been as a heel if he'd been waving about a Bulgarian flag etc. or do you think changing his country allegiance to Russia was required to get the character over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanny Pack Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Was just thinking about Rusev while watching RAW and does anyone think he'd have been as successful as he has been as a heel if he'd been waving about a Bulgarian flag etc. or do you think changing his country allegiance to Russia was required to get the character over? I think so. There is the Rocky vs Drago blueprint but i also think the only exposure the US has had of Bulgaria is the lovable underdog squad Bulgaria had at the 1994 World Cup which featured great lads such as Stoichkov and Letchkov! Fair fucks to WWE with Rusev, the pasy year he has been booked to perfection. From his build up of opponents Truth, Swagger, Henry, Big Show and Cena to his interaction with the Rock. Obviously Lana has only added to his aura but Rusev is the man and i expect big things (a WWE title run) from him this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Murtz Posted March 24, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 24, 2015 Is there a special move that noone has ever kicked out of/not tapped out to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Callum1993 Posted March 24, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 24, 2015 Did Reigns kick out of Bryan's running knee at Fast Lane? If not I don't think anyone has kicked out of that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobystag Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Kenta Kobashi's Burning Hammer. Not that up to date with Dragon Gate recently but as far as I'm aware no one's kicked out of Akira Tozawa's package german suplex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undefeated Steak Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Was just about to say Kobashi's burning hammer. Probably the most protected move I can think of (unless you're counting top rope variations on sports hall shows). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Murtz Posted March 24, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 24, 2015 Reigns did kick out if Bryan's knee. Probably difficult to find many moves that people have never kicked out of. So I'll ask this.. what are the most protected special moves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Did any kick of Warrior's Gorilla Press? The only time I can think they would have is Hogan at WM6 but I can't remember off the top of my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted March 24, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 24, 2015 Hogan was the only one to kick out of Goldberg's spear and jackhammer combo, I believe. And that was only because Nash was late doing a run in on Nitro. The announcers didn't acknowledge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Best bet are moves that babyfaces used before the kick-out-of-three-finishers era, so basically anything that was a finisher pre-attitude that never then became a mid-match move. I can't think of any, though. If we can count specific wrestlers' versions of moves, Warrior's big splash? Christ, I hope that Max Landis gif doesn't become the stock response whenever anyone points out a booking inconsistency. It's fair enough as the stock response when someone points out an inconsistency that's been part of wrestling for years, like "why do people come running back after Irish whips?" or "why did his mates only run in for the DQ after he could have already lost the title ten times?" or "why don't the on-screen authority figures just sack/not hire wrestlers they don't get on with?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted March 24, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 24, 2015 Just because it's been a part of wrestling for years, doesn't make it any less fucking stupid though. All of those are fair points. Just because you're immune to dumb shit, doesn't make it any less dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted March 24, 2015 Moderators Share Posted March 24, 2015 Some twat who does motivational speaking for a living has been watching Money in the Bank matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted March 24, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted March 24, 2015 Did any kick of Warrior's Gorilla Press? The only time I can think they would have is Hogan at WM6 but I can't remember off the top of my head Randy Savage did it at WrestleMania VII too. Hogan was the only one to kick out of Goldberg's spear and jackhammer combo, I believe. And that was only because Nash was late doing a run in on Nitro. The announcers didn't acknowledge it. What match was this? I've spent the last 15 years thinking that the 6th July 98 Nitro was the only time Hogan wrestled Goldberg, and there was certainly no kicking out of the Jackhammer there. A cursory check reveals the 24th August show had a Nash/Goldberg vs Hogan/Giant match that I don't remember - is it that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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