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Has anyone seen the WWE memes facebook page? Some are pure gold. Really improved my Facebook feed from a bunch of dross about people I don't like   http://www.facebook.com/WWEMEMES

I'd rather they turn Del Rio face. He isn't likeable but Rodriguez is, so I'd play off that. Have Del Rio defend him after he gets a kicking and offer to train him up. The comedy skits they could do w

And so he should. If I was Hulk Hogan my number one party trick would be ripping my tshirt off. If I got pissed with Hogan and he didn't do it I would consider the night a failure

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Speaking of drumming, Herbie, I watched a Chris Hero interview recently where he mentioned that for the Wrestling Channel, you created a commercial for CZW where Alex Shane, Sonjay Dutt and Jonny Storm mimed the CZW theme and were pretending to play instruments. Have you any memory of this? I vaguely seem to recall it.

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I don't think they should have ever bothered with two belts. There was talk at first that they were gonna have the champions at each level just work both brands. The existence of the one big belt on RAW harms the the big belt on Smackdown. Just have one fucking world champion who works both shows.

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I don't think they should have ever bothered with two belts. There was talk at first that they were gonna have the champions at each level just work both brands. The existence of the one big belt on RAW harms the the big belt on Smackdown. Just have one fucking world champion who works both shows.

 

They could even elevate the U.S. title to be RAWs main belt. Treat it like a big deal week after week and it'll become a big deal, like when Cena was doing his cracking open challenge stuff.

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I always thought they should've had one champ who was exclusive to his show. At every cross brand ppv every few months however the other brand would be able to challenge for the title using a contender of their choosing to fight him, if their challenger won then the belt would go to his show with him as champion.

There wouldn't be too many champs but both shows would get the champ as well as loads of storyline fodder over shows losing/gaining the belt. Also ratings would be interesting.

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Speaking of drumming, Herbie, I watched a Chris Hero interview recently where he mentioned that for the Wrestling Channel, you created a commercial for CZW where Alex Shane, Sonjay Dutt and Jonny Storm mimed the CZW theme and were pretending to play instruments. Have you any memory of this? I vaguely seem to recall it.

 

Alex Shane, M-Dogg 20 (Matt Cross), Jody, Jonny, Burridge. It was during an IWW tour and we were slagging off the CZW theme song, so decided to make a video for it because M-Dogg knew the words.

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I always thought they should've had one champ who was exclusive to his show. At every cross brand ppv every few months however the other brand would be able to challenge for the title using a contender of their choosing to fight him, if their challenger won then the belt would go to his show with him as champion.

There wouldn't be too many champs but both shows would get the champ as well as loads of storyline fodder over shows losing/gaining the belt. Also ratings would be interesting.

 

Yep, this is the model I'd have gone with. 

 

US & IC are the de facto championships of their brands. Then you have your guy who is THE champ.

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I wished they'd have gone with Raw and Smackdown belts, so you'd have a Raw champion, Smackdown champion, and NXT champion. Then kept the WWE title for Goldberg/Lesnar/Reigns/Cena and only had it defended three or four times a year.

 

Going a step further, Raw could have a traditional tag title and let Smackdown have a trios tag championship instead, to give it some difference. All belts would look the same (like the UFC) but would have different coloured leather. Keep the WWE title black obv.

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I don't buy that ICP didn't want to take stunners, they seem like utter marks who'd have fucking loved it.

 

It's the truth, and it was pretty much the end of them in WWF. They were known to be big time "workers" during the 98/99 period, including this gem from the Torch:

 

"Insane Clown Posse had agreed to appear at the ECW PPV (Anarchy Rulz 1999), but they pulled out of the agreement when they were told they would have to do a job to Tommy Dreamer & Raven. They apparently told ECW that WCW had promised one of them the Cruiserweight Title and unless Heyman agreed to let them win their first match in ECW, they would stay in WCW after all."

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I wished they'd have gone with Raw and Smackdown belts, so you'd have a Raw champion, Smackdown champion, and NXT champion. Then kept the WWE title for Goldberg/Lesnar/Reigns/Cena and only had it defended three or four times a year.

 

Going a step further, Raw could have a traditional tag title and let Smackdown have a trios tag championship instead, to give it some difference. All belts would look the same (like the UFC) but would have different coloured leather. Keep the WWE title black obv.

That would widen the already problematic chasm between 'current champions' and 'actual big time wrestlers'.

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And here is Dean Ambrose, Rich Swann and Drake Younger's interpretation of it.

 

Class!

 

It must have been a running joke in CZW amongst their wrestlers. Because when I casually passed comment to M-Dogg 20 about how naff their theme song was (CZW sent it to us to use on TWC), he was all over it & started singing it - he knew all the words. We had commented that it sounded like it'd been sung down a phone. And of course Jody & Jonny had been to CZW too in the BOTB2 tourny. And Alex Shane & Burridge were on the same IWW tour, so just decided to join in.

I had to convince Alex Shane to take his top off - he didn't want to at first and commented that he doesn't even wrestle with his top off. Ironically, I told him to stop being so gay and just take his top off, we'll lash on a strobe, and I'll film him playing drums. It was just a goof in the TWC office one evening before an IWW tour kicked off in March 2005.

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I wished they'd have gone with Raw and Smackdown belts, so you'd have a Raw champion, Smackdown champion, and NXT champion. Then kept the WWE title for Goldberg/Lesnar/Reigns/Cena and only had it defended three or four times a year.

 

Going a step further, Raw could have a traditional tag title and let Smackdown have a trios tag championship instead, to give it some difference. All belts would look the same (like the UFC) but would have different coloured leather. Keep the WWE title black obv.

That would widen the already problematic chasm between 'current champions' and 'actual big time wrestlers'.

 

 

I don't think it would widen it. The problem's already there between the top normal guys and the elite guys like Lesnar and Goldberg, and I think that's a problem that goes far beyond who's champion. Someone on here suggested giving Goldberg the Universal title and that would feel like a big step down for Goldberg. I think there'd be more merit from eventually giving the WWE title to the next star every year or two. What we have currently is two lacklustre world belts. At least with a Raw and Smackdown belt, you could have two lacklustre show-specific belts (essentially what the WWE/Universal are now) and still be able to retain that top belt for the big occasions (Summerslam/Rumble/Wrestlemania etc).

 

More than anything, the names of the current singles belts make no sense. World/Universal/Intercontinental/US/Cruiserweight. The first three essentially mean the same thing (or is Universal bigger because it can be defended throughout the universe), the US belt doesn't have any criteria that makes it US-only, and the cruiserweight title means nothing in an era when cruisers can go for the big belts. 

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