Paid Members stumobir Posted August 15, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 15, 2015 I implore anyone who's vaguely interested in the leadership election to watch Yvette Cooper's interview with Kirsty Wark on Newsnight, I've never winced so much at politician as I did during that interview, especially when she tried to explain what a "feminist economy" was, going as far as saying that trains were "boys' toys". She couldn't give a clear, concise answer to a single question that was asked of her and I think if it was a Paxman or Marr interviewing her it would have hit the headlines, Wark seemed to take pity on her and let her off quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted August 15, 2015 Moderators Share Posted August 15, 2015 I love a good car crash.. I'll check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Burnham's infinitely superior to that shithouse Kendall.  Yeah Kendall is awful but I just ignore her now because she is pretty much out of the running at this stage.  Apparently Flash Gordon is going to make a speech soon and save Labour from Corbyn. It's ridiculous watching this lot do everything they can to stop someone in their own fucking being elected even going as far as to plot ousting him if he does win.  How can they not see the damage they are doing? It's bonkers. Shame they didn't show this much drive in the run up to the last election because they may have bloody won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members unfitfinlay Posted August 15, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Meanwhile, showing just how much they've learned from being all but wiped out at Westminster, "Scottish" Labour have appointed Kezia Dugdale as their new Leader.The same Kezia Dugdale who was deputy leader, and their leader in Holyrood when they were annihilated. In short, she's shite. It's like they've decided that the SNP's success hasn't come from clearly and passionately opposing the Tories, it's 'cause we've got a female leader.I'm seriously considering trying to get odds on Labour not even being in opposition up here next year. It sounds ridiculous but if enough SNP voters give their second vote to another Party, it's possible. Â Edit: Â Well, this is interesting given that Burnham, Cooper and Kendall's entire campaigns have been focused on smearing Corbyn. Â Edited August 15, 2015 by unfitfinlay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members unfitfinlay Posted August 20, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 20, 2015 #LabourPurge is trending on Twitter. Apparently they've been going through people's social media history, etc, to look for reasons to reject them while also encouraging people to report anyone they think doesn't "share Labour values". Â It's insane isn't it? Allowing "Registered Supporters" to vote was a daft idea in the first place but, once it was announced, they had to stick with it. Doing this is going to put the validity of the result into question if anybody but Corbyn wins. It'll be Miliband's "He's only leader because he stabbed his brother in the back" all over again. Â I'm exactly the sort of person they should be trying to win over but, even if I left the SNP, I wouldn't be allowed to join the Labour Party. Madness. Â I'm not even convinced that there will be Labour Party in 2020. Certainly not in its current form anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted August 20, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted August 20, 2015 The whole thing makes me actually angry. Real life angry. They're essentially trawling social media and if they find that you even retweeted something that was anti-Labour, you are running the risk of not being allowed to vote. You have to blanket support them, it's madness. Â I hope Corbyn wins but even if he does all the cunts, bitter at their loss, will do anything they can to undermine him and get him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Here's what does it for me; MP's, like Simon Danczuk, have openly discussed about working on the coup the minute Corbyn is made leader. Â I mean, what's the fucking point?! Â How fucking shady, authoritarian, undemocratic is that? How disrespectful to its membership? Â I'm not a Corbyn-ite by any mean (I think we share a lot of political aspirations but I think in 2015 socialism should be about devolution, about community empowerment, mistrust of central government as well as big business and big on participation. I think he's still very pro-central authority) but I don't understand how anyone could vote for one of the other 3. Bland, robotic, passive aggressive (yet probably behind a tonne of malicious briefings) and completely blind to what messages the people try and send them at election times. Â Fuck Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Just voted for Corbyn. Â I don't agree with him on everything but I do agree with him on more than the other three (which isn't hard since I don't even know what they really stand for) and he is quite frankly Labour's last chance with me and screwing him over at this stage would do the party more damage than his leadership should he win IMO. Â You only have to look at the crowds Corbyn is constantly pulling to see that the "Tory infiltration" line isn't going to float with party members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted September 12, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2015 So, Corbyn actually won. With Tom Watson as his deputy. Â I think it's great. Large swathes of the news media are already out in force on Twitter, spinning a tale of Labour doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted September 12, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2015 What is it about Corbyn that has everyone in politics riled up so much but the public loving him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Dem Wanz Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Forza Jeremy Corbyn. Â I await the inevitable ramping-up of his character assasination in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted September 12, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yvette Cooper is a bit of a spenk. Â When asked "Is this a modern party, with a male leader, deputy leader and mayoral candidate?" she just spouted a load of platitudes. Â How about pointing out that they were all elected out of pools of candidates that were half made up of women? The Labour electorate were offered a balanced selection of candidates, and voted for three men not on the basis of their gender, but on the basis of their politics, backed up further by the fact that the runners-up were a man and a woman from the left of the party. That's about as modern as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpursRiot2012 Posted September 12, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2015 There was a whole flurry of people on Twitter commenting about the lack of female representation at the top of Labour. I didn't really know how to respond. Should votes for women have counted twice in the name of gender balance? They had plenty female choices, those choices just didnt appeal. I have a huge issue anyway with a lot of diversity in whatever sector chatter because it is often portrayed as if we should have a female or other minority person in a position simply for the sake of it. That doesn't seem like fairness to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted September 12, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted September 12, 2015 Feminism across social media is essentially one big hissy fit for morons. Tumblr, Twitter, all of it. Never any facts involved, just wild accusations and buzzwords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted September 13, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted September 13, 2015 There was a whole flurry of people on Twitter commenting about the lack of female representation at the top of Labour. I didn't really know how to respond. Should votes for women have counted twice in the name of gender balance? They had plenty female choices, those choices just didnt appeal. I have a huge issue anyway with a lot of diversity in whatever sector chatter because it is often portrayed as if we should have a female or other minority person in a position simply for the sake of it. That doesn't seem like fairness to me. Â It's not just about the candidates, but the electorate as well. I can't imagine the 400K+ people who voted in the leadership election were all men; I'd venture to guess that around 48-52% were women, and they didn't see much in the Blairite candidates of Yvette Cooper, Liz Kendall, Angela Eagle or Tessa Jowell either. I'd like to believe they'd have voted for Jemima Corbyn too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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