Glass Smash Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 No it was shown on Raw in the UK. And Raw still went out at 5pm on Sky Sports at the time before it moved to its regular 10.00pm slot later in 1996 but all of Goldust's promos were included in the broadcasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 When did the concept of JR as a great untouchable best commentator ever start? I was reading an old Observer the other day from early in the attitude era and there was a letter in it moaning about him being a shit cliche-spouting knob. He only got worse for that as time went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted February 21, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 21, 2015 I really went off him in 2000 when there being two Chris' in the company appeared to confuse him beyond all belief. Anyway, the best announcer is Lance Russell. Â Here he is wielding a hammer. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoTheGame Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Michael Cole can tell the Usos apart. JR couldn't tell the Hardys apart. Ergo, Cole is better than JR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted February 21, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) When did the concept of JR as a great untouchable best commentator ever start? I was reading an old Observer the other day from early in the attitude era and there was a letter in it moaning about him being a shit cliche-spouting knob. He only got worse for that as time went on. When he started getting bullied onscreen, I imagine. Also, I remember back 99 when Michael Cole took over, he was so rotten it made you appreciate JR a bit more. Actually, in late 97/early 98 JR was playing second fiddle to Cole and Kevin Kelly for the first hour of Raw. They were like Mel and Sue on the announce desk. Each trying to out shit each other, and JR was just sitting there not saying a word. Its funny, because JR couldnt get a world in and Kevin Kelly and Michael Cole seemed desperate to try and show they were fit for the lead announce role. Which makes you wonder if they wanted JR off the announce team as early as then. Â During my midlife crisis of watching Superstars and Raw from 94-98 (on fast forward, obviously, nostalgia is cool, but fucking hell some of it is dog shit), I've found JR so unlikable its quite sad. He's just a bitter muppet. And when he had the ability to smile, he looked like a smug cunt who's face you wouldnt get tired of punching. Because he was head of talent relations, he didnt half abuse his power with anyone below Austin, Shawn, Bret and Undertaker. In 97, when Al Snow was kicking off for losing another match, JR totally no sold his tantrum by saying "get over it you goof." He was just a cunt to everyone. His constant digs at WCW were hilariously sad. At least Bischoff was funny with it, which insider remarks and what not. JR said on Live Wire "Bret Hart is the first athlete to win the WWF title 5 times". When someone tried to call him out that Hogan had won it 5 times, JR snapped and went "YOU CALLING HOGAN A REAL ATHLETE? I SAID REAL ATHLETE" and they hung up on him. Â An underrated thing over the years (probably a case of favourites getting protected) is that JR is just as bad for his hotline shit as Gene Okerlund was. The teasers you just pure shill. "A member of the Hart Foundation will be on Raw next Monday night, call 0891 299 888 for information". It was Neidhart. Same stuff as Gene, but you just know if you rang the number, JR was going to do what he does on his podcast now. Nagging old twat JR talking about lighting and needing to slow down in the ring. Edited February 21, 2015 by IANdrewDiceClay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Smash Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I have always found JR to be overrated. I actually prefered the combination of Vince and Lawler before they stuck Ross between them. And speaking of commentators I can't stand JBL he is just fucking awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Dem Wanz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I love JR and I think the product is always lacking something when he isn't there, I guess that might be because I grew up listening to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted February 21, 2015 Paid Members Share Posted February 21, 2015 I grew up listening to Scott Hudson. Not in a hurry to see him back behind an announce desk though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammorgz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015   When did the concept of JR as a great untouchable best commentator ever start? I was reading an old Observer the other day from early in the attitude era and there was a letter in it moaning about him being a shit cliche-spouting knob. He only got worse for that as time went on. When he started getting bullied onscreen, I imagine. Also, I remember back 99 when Michael Cole took over, he was so rotten it made you appreciate JR a bit more. Actually, in late 97/early 98 JR was playing second fiddle to Cole and Kevin Kelly for the first hour of Raw. They were like Mel and Sue on the announce desk. Each trying to out shit each other, and JR was just sitting there not saying a word. Its funny, because JR couldnt get a world in and Kevin Kelly and Michael Cole seemed desperate to try and show they were fit for the lead announce role. Which makes you wonder if they wanted JR off the announce team as early as then. During my midlife crisis of watching Superstars and Raw from 94-98 (on fast forward, obviously, nostalgia is cool, but fucking hell some of it is dog shit), I've found JR so unlikable its quite sad. He's just a bitter muppet. And when he had the ability to smile, he looked like a smug cunt who's face you wouldnt get tired of punching. Because he was head of talent relations, he didnt half abuse his power with anyone below Austin, Shawn, Bret and Undertaker. In 97, when Al Snow was kicking off for losing another match, JR totally no sold his tantrum by saying "get over it you goof." He was just a cunt to everyone. His constant digs at WCW were hilariously sad. At least Bischoff was funny with it, which insider remarks and what not. JR said on Live Wire "Bret Hart is the first athlete to win the WWF title 5 times". When someone tried to call him out that Hogan had won it 5 times, JR snapped and went "YOU CALLING HOGAN A REAL ATHLETE? I SAID REAL ATHLETE" and they hung up on him.  An underrated thing over the years (probably a case of favourites getting protected) is that JR is just as bad for his hotline shit as Gene Okerlund was. The teasers you just pure shill. "A member of the Hart Foundation will be on Raw next Monday night, call 0891 299 888 for information". It was Neidhart. Same stuff as Gene, but you just know if you rang the number, JR was going to do what he does on his podcast now. Nagging old twat JR talking about lighting and needing to slow down in the ring. This post is absolutely incredible, and whilst I don't completely agree about everything you've said about big Jim, you've certainly cheered me up. I've got to go back and watch some of these just to see how miserable he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.PeterVenkman Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 His commentary for Austin vs Dude Love at Over The Edge '98 is still superb though, probably won't be as good listening to it now as it does contain a lot of the 'STONE COLD, STONE COLD' stuff people take the piss out of him for but it's still a great job he does with that match, especially after Austin wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Smash Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I think JR was taking the piss out of himself after the Austin V Bischoff match from No Way Out 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted February 21, 2015 Awards Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2015 The first time I remember my attention being brought to JR's talents was Mick Foley's first book. Mick put JR over hugely as one of the best announcers ever, and as I tended to agree with Mick about most things he said back then, I agreed with him on that. I still think JR's good, I did at least pay attention to the commentary when he was on, which I don't tend to do now. JR and Heyman were a great combination, or at least that's how I choose to remember them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe_Knuckleball_Schwartz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Has anyone purchased anything from squaredcircle.com? They have some good looking t shirts on there, but unsure of the quality etc. Edited February 21, 2015 by Abe_Knuckleball_Schwartz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 What did people think of him back in the nwa day? I kind of assume people loved him back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSeaTiger Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Has anyone purchased anything from squaredcircle.com? They have some good looking t shirts on there, but unsure of the quality etc. I ordered the grey Parts Unknown tshirt a few months ago. Great quality, no fading on the image, and a hard wearing tshirt too. Not a cheap,thin material. And a good fit too. I get XL, and they are nicely fitted. Not like a tent but not skin tight either. Well worth the money IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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