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http://whatculture.com/film/25-huge-movies-disney-just-cancelled

A lot of these sound bad but the bigger picture is that Disney cancelled 200+ films that Fox had in the pipeline, a lot of which would have been under the Fox Searchlight umbrella. I fucking hate Disney and I always have.

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This year has been brutal because of Disney. Fair play, they're killing it, but it's proper annoying when a smaller film you want to see is barely shown and on the shit screen because Splashman needs to be shown every 30 minutes, taking up all the screens.

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Supply and demand though. That’s what I’m always told. 

As to the 200 films Disney cancelled, that’s common. How many do you actually think would have actually got made? Every studio does it. I just think your hatred of Disney is amplifying it

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10 hours ago, ColinBollocks said:

This year has been brutal because of Disney. Fair play, they're killing it, but it's proper annoying when a smaller film you want to see is barely shown and on the shit screen because Splashman needs to be shown every 30 minutes, taking up all the screens.

Yep. They've made more money in the first 7 months of this year through box office than any studio has ever made in a whole year, which is what happens when they own about a fifth of the ENTIRE movie industry.

We should take into consideration, too, that only two standalone films have made $100 million+ at the box office for the WHOLE of 2019, and I don't see many in the rest of the year to add to that number. That's absolutely ridiculous.

Missing Link made $25 million at the box office off a $100 million budget. How are companies like Laika meant to keep going and make these wonderful films when Disney is offering no gaps in the release schedule for these films to get seen?

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Missing Link came out 7 weeks after Dumbo, 4 weeks after Captain Marvel. Disney had nothing to do with it bombing, blame the lack of marketing and the fact, other then Coraline and Kubo, there are visually impressive, yet boring. And while I obviously do like Disney, I’ll happily call them out if it’s required https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4502&p=s.htm

This from when Kubo came out

Finishing fourth with an estimated $12.6 million is Focus and Laika's Kubo and the Two Strings, which also received a strong, "A" CinemaScore from opening day audiences. While Laika is pretty much always guaranteed an Oscar nomination at the end of the year, this is the lowest wide opening release for any of the studio's five feature films, which have shown dwindling multipliers over the course of their last three releases. 

While 2009's Coraline opened with $16.8 million and went on to deliver a 4.5 multiplier, finishing its domestic run with $75.2 million, 2014's The Boxtrolls opened with $17.27 million, but only finished with just over $50 million. Should Kubo follow the Boxtrolls' path it would mean a domestic haul somewhere around $37 million. 

Kubo also opened in eight international territories this weekend, bringing in an estimated $900,000. The film releases around the world over the next few months.

 

Edited by Hannibal Scorch

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7 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

Yeah @Devon Malcolm you Disney hater!!!! Why won’t you just let the behemoth live!!!

Look, Disney needs some taking down, I can attest to that. I love Marvel films, as I grew up on Marvel comics and cartoons. But I get why people get annoyed by them because they are juggernauts. 

Disney’s live action is a disgrace. Most of these live action re-imaginings are bullshit, though I thought Dumbo and Aladdin were actually pretty decent. But it’s all remakes now: the with Disney going CGI for their animated films I actually get confused with what is Disney and what is Pixar.

the problem is no studio seems to be able to compete or make a franchise. Universal have Fast and Furious and nothing else, after they killed the dark universe they announced prior to The Mummy. Even Dreamworks don’t seem to have any proper franchises now they have ended Dragons. Fox has Avatar, Sony is still heavily reliant on Spider-man and Bond. They should all take more risks to try and stop the juggernaut.

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I would say studio's trying to build franchises is a big part of the problem. There's a ton of ways for creative film makers to get a film made and distributed but the cinema shouldn't be an exclusive blockbuster hub. Disney making dumb kids movies aimed at adults is fine, I enjoy a fair few myself, I just wish cinemas didn't fill so many screens with the shite.

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10 minutes ago, Mr_Danger said:

I would say studio's trying to build franchises is a big part of the problem. There's a ton of ways for creative film makers to get a film made and distributed but the cinema shouldn't be an exclusive blockbuster hub. Disney making dumb kids movies aimed at adults is fine, I enjoy a fair few myself, I just wish cinemas didn't fill so many screens with the shite.

In my 16 screen cinema, Lion King was on in 10 of them. And that’s why I never got to see Stuber, but I had to sit through that piece of shit. 

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28 minutes ago, Mr_Danger said:

I would say studio's trying to build franchises is a big part of the problem. There's a ton of ways for creative film makers to get a film made and distributed but the cinema shouldn't be an exclusive blockbuster hub. Disney making dumb kids movies aimed at adults is fine, I enjoy a fair few myself, I just wish cinemas didn't fill so many screens with the shite.

I'd be willing to put money on Disney striking a deal with a chain sometime in the next couple of years where they only run [insert new cape film here] for the first couple of weeks or so, with no other film being screened. There's nothing good to be gained from their domination of cinema.

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Their big focus is on streaming. They have already announced a load of films for it, many were originally planned for the Cinema, so the next decade we could see a dramatic switch in how they release films

 

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This is unexpected.

https://screenrant.com/searching-2-sequel-director-aneesh-chaganty/

Quite happy to see it will be a new story entirely although I will miss John Cho, who is great. Not sure if they can sustain the gimmick again if that's the route they choose, but the original was excellent so I'm interested in this.

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15 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

I'd be willing to put money on Disney striking a deal with a chain sometime in the next couple of years where they only run [insert new cape film here] for the first couple of weeks or so, with no other film being screened. There's nothing good to be gained from their domination of cinema.

Disney spat their dummies a few years ago when they wanted to shorten the delay between cinema and home release of ( I think ) Alice in Wonderland 2 and a couple of cinema chains threatened to just not show the film. If the Disney monopoly doesn’t end in cinema release times being shortened, dual cinema and home release or Disney actually ending up controlling the release schedule for everyone then I’d be shocked. 

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