Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted June 26, 2024 Moderators Posted June 26, 2024 1 hour ago, FLips said: Labour to meet with JK Rowling to discuss Trans issues was the final straw for Labour with me. They have a win lined up on a silver platter and they're still making idiotic decisions like that. Who cares what JK Rowling thinks about anything. Just read about this and it's even worse that your post suggests by far. They're not just meeting with her, but actually bowing and scraping to get her to give them an audience. Pathetic and hugely disheartening. Quote
westlondonmist Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 Why the fuck do they have to give assurances to her? Is JK Rowling the queen of women now and how she feels about trans people is what all women think? Quote
Members SuperBacon Posted June 26, 2024 Author Members Posted June 26, 2024 11 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said: Pathetic and hugely disheartening But saddest of all, not in the least bit surprising. Quote
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 1 hour ago, FLips said: Who cares what JK Rowling thinks about anything. It genuinely baffles me how Rowling's opinion has been given such weight. A child's author who hasn't written anything in years yet people are seemingly waiting with baited breath to comment on her latest tweets/comments. Look at the posts on here, people lap her shit up. I dont get it. Imagine if she'd just been ignored? Quote
Paid Members FLips Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 I imagine it all comes down to donations. She's mates with Gordon Brown and has donated large sums to Labour in the past. She came out early saying she's struggling to support them and what do you know suddenly she's meeting with them. Quote
Merzbow Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 Yeah, they're likely shit scared she fucks them over like she did with Corbyn. She arguably hit the first real media blow against him as leader. Quote
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 I don't even get why they're meeting with her since it doesn't take a lot of reading between the lines to see that Starmer agrees with her, but has to look like he's doing something to court the LGBTQ+ vote. Quote
d-d-d-dAz Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 (edited) Keir Starmer is so frustratingly vague and says so little of substance, if you were mad it'd be almost enough to make you feel sorry for Rishi Sunak. It must be like debating a kid who just says 'I know you are but what am I!' to the point you want to just throw him out of a window. What a horrible choice for this country, really. Edited June 26, 2024 by d-d-d-dAz Quote
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 28 minutes ago, Jazzy G said: I don't even get why they're meeting with her since it doesn't take a lot of reading between the lines to see that Starmer agrees with her, but has to look like he's doing something to court the LGBTQ+ vote. I don't think it's this at all tbh. The biggest criticism he's faced on the doorstep has been that he 'can't even explain what a woman is'. They're desperate to win back the red wall/traditional Labour voters. The main complaint at the last election was that Labour had abandoned them & just care about minorities. This is them trying to avoid those same complaints. Quote
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 So instead they're going to lose the LGBTQ+ vote. Still, if it means they get that JK Rowling money then I guess they'll be happy enough. Quote
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Jazzy G said: So instead they're going to lose the LGBTQ+ vote. Still, if it means they get that JK Rowling money then I guess they'll be happy enough. You assume that's the case. Hypothetically if they even did (they won't), that's a tiny % of the electorate. Quote
Paid Members Nexus Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 The crowd during this debate was very much to the right of the spectrum. Some absolutely mad questions, and both of them came out looking pretty bad. Not content with the terfy dogwhistle question about women, the presenter then had to double-doon just to make absolutely clear that was what they were talking about. Pathetic from both of them. I'm really annoyed that the Green Party candidate from my area hasn't responded to my email, because it's making me reluctant to vote for him. Quote
Paid Members FLips Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 Fair play to anyone that made it through that. I tapped out before the halfway point and put the Georgia/Portugal game on. Another awfully hosted debate featuring the same questions we've had at all of them and the same answers we've had at all of them. Starmer looked like an idiot tonight though because Sunak had some sort of fight in him. It seems the Tories have found the way to really push Starmer's buttons is to just go "Ok so what is your plan" and watch him flail about in his own piss for five minutes. They're like pullstring dolls with only one or two phrases. "Smash those vile gangs" and "Labour are raising your taxes". I believe someone asked a question after I stopped watching along the lines of "Are you two really the best this country has?" and that's probably the best question that's been asked the whole campaign. Quote
Paid Members garynysmon Posted June 26, 2024 Paid Members Posted June 26, 2024 I'm 40 years old now so really should be past the "old people have shitty opinions" stage, but I really don't get why some are so obsessed with 'Arthur' as the BBC's Election theme and got apoplectic when it was dropped between 2006-2019. This was much better imo. Quote
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