Paid Members Jazzy G Posted May 9 Paid Members Share Posted May 9 13 hours ago, Merzbow said: That's not a proper chippy, they've got a kebab thing right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 9 Paid Members Share Posted May 9 12 hours ago, Keith Houchen said: I think it may have been @BomberPat who said one of the best things Albini did was realising how awful the edgelord stuff he was involved with was, and his encouragement for others to move away from it. Yeah, I think he's one of very few people of his generation to have seriously reckoned with the culture of the time and his part in it, explained why it was the way it was, but also fully accepting why they were mistaken. And he seemingly never did it out of a need for forgiveness or acceptance, just because he recognised it was the right thing to do. It shouldn't stand out as much as it does, but given so many people of his generation have just doubled down on "no, it's the children who are wrong", it stands out. I found myself being a lot more upset by hearing of Albini's death than I probably would have thought. He had a hand in so much music that I love, and that shaped my tastes, and whether it's playing a bunch of Big Black and Rapeman records when I was working in a record shop, seeing Shellac live and meeting him at merch tables, or going back as far as first hearing In Utero, he was just ever-present. I even recently had a brief exchange with him on Bluesky, when Steve Harley died, discussing how he was so much more than a one hit wonder, and that kind of thing stands out when I think of Albini on social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted May 9 Paid Members Share Posted May 9 14 hours ago, Keith Houchen said: I think it may have been @BomberPat who said one of the best things Albini did was realising how awful the edgelord stuff he was involved with was, and his encouragement for others to move away from it. I just saw this on twitter which made feel a bit sick. Is this what you were referring to or is this something else? https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/now-that-steve-albini-is-dead-lets-reflect-on-his-admitted-love-and-promotion-of-child-fadf5072288e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 minute ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I just saw this on twitter which made feel a bit sick. Is this what you were referring to or is this something else? https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/now-that-steve-albini-is-dead-lets-reflect-on-his-admitted-love-and-promotion-of-child-fadf5072288e Yeah that’s the sort of thing. He apologised for stuff like that essentially saying it was all shit banter. When you were in bands called Rapeman and Run Nigger Run (who had a song called Pray I Don’t Kill You Faggot), you just hope they end up regretting it. Not sure if it was him or another member but they all seem to class it as their biggest mistake and like a tattoo that seemed a good idea at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Not sure I agree with how thats put but it's worth flagging, with more info in the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted May 9 Paid Members Share Posted May 9 I won’t lie, as someone who didn’t know about him at all and looked him up after seeing all the glowing tributes in here, I can’t say he came across as the nicest of people to put it lightly. I can’t see the X thread but if it’s the same article he wrote that came up on Reddit about how he’d love to sexually assault 12 year olds then it was pretty grim stuff. I’m not going to go all Lance Storm about it but I can certainly see why he wouldn’t be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted May 9 Moderators Share Posted May 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I just saw this on twitter which made feel a bit sick. Is this what you were referring to or is this something else? https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/now-that-steve-albini-is-dead-lets-reflect-on-his-admitted-love-and-promotion-of-child-fadf5072288e Feel pretty sick reading that tbh. Struggling to to find any way to read that as jokes or banter the way he's said it. Absolutely foul. He can recant it all he wants (well not anymore he can't, lol) but I'll continue to believe it was his genuinely held feelings on the matter. Edited May 9 by Chest Rockwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Chest Rockwell said: Feel pretty sick reading that tbh. Struggling to to find any way to read that as jokes or banter the way he's said it. Absolutely foul. He can recant it all he wants (well not anymore he can't, lol) but I'll continue to believe it was his genuinely held feelings on the matter. Yeah it’s quite funny how that whole alternative edgelord culture of the time were so keen to court offence and try and out do each other while moaning that people are too easily offended and you can’t say anything in case a minority gets upset. Most people I knew like that grew out of it but some sure haven’t. Large sections of supposedly alternative and anti mainstream subcultures are so massively conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Man Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) werent you tagging threads with 'BUMMERS' jokes a few weeks ago EDIT - looking at the rest of thst Substack writers web presence and it's wall to wall transphobic shite. Well done, everyone. Edited May 9 by Cannibal Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Eric “E.T.” Thorngren died too. He was legendary in studio engineering and mixing. Did loads with Talking Heads, Robert Palmer and did some early Grandmaster Flash stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 19 minutes ago, Cannibal Man said: EDIT - looking at the rest of thst Substack writers web presence and it's wall to wall transphobic shite Substack is notorious for this to be honest, it's why a load of people left it about a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald J Trump Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 7 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I just saw this on twitter which made feel a bit sick. Is this what you were referring to or is this something else? https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/now-that-steve-albini-is-dead-lets-reflect-on-his-admitted-love-and-promotion-of-child-fadf5072288e Credit to you for flagging this up. That's the first time I've seen that and it's horrific. I'm all for people having the opportunity to learn from their mistakes and his attempt at accountability appeared to me to be a convincing one. There is a line though, and what you've shared, along with a couple of other bits and pieces I've seen today have been a bit of a rabbit hole. Difficult to say this, but warm words aren't sitting right with me at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted May 9 Paid Members Share Posted May 9 Dennis Thompson, drummer and last surviving member of the MC5, aged 75. Art Jimmerson, boxer who competed in UFC 1, aged 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald J Trump Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Art Jimmerson is one of my all time favourite boxing names. Went up against Royce Gracie in his first and only UFC bout. Would probably be enough for me to get out the fight game as well to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted May 10 Moderators Share Posted May 10 (edited) 22 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I just saw this on twitter which made feel a bit sick. Is this what you were referring to or is this something else? https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/now-that-steve-albini-is-dead-lets-reflect-on-his-admitted-love-and-promotion-of-child-fadf5072288e 15 hours ago, Cannibal Man said: werent you tagging threads with 'BUMMERS' jokes a few weeks ago EDIT - looking at the rest of thst Substack writers web presence and it's wall to wall transphobic shite. Well done, everyone. Not going to remove the link because this doesn't make the content necessarily any less true, but this is what Cannibal Man is referring to with the less-than-savory character of the author: I'm not personally aware of any other articles floating around covering this but if you're discussing this elsewhere you might want to find a different source to share. Edited May 10 by Chest Rockwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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